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Ahhh these fears are really overblown. This is just an iteration of the same overreaction that has been occurring since the days of splicing audio tape togethe
by sillyquiet 5y ago
Ahhh these fears are really overblown.
This is just an iteration of the same overreaction that has been occurring since the days of splicing audio tape together.
If anything, I would argue malicious editing of REAL footage, which already occurs in media outlets today, is far more frightening than the possibility of having a deepfake video, though it might be another tool in that slimy toolbox.
- unsupp0rted 5y agoI take a similar approach, but from a different angle: the widespread awareness of deepfakes is useful because people will stop relying on video "evidence" as evidence. We already do this with photos. We don't necessarily worry so much about what's in the photo as who claims the photo is real and what the chain of custody was. The same will be true for video evidence, even if or especially if we start stamping videos with tamper-proof signatures.
- theshrike79 5y agoThis is the thing. Convincing enough deep fake + the 24/7 news industry + Twitter rage machine combined will at some point overreact way too fast and too hard and someone will get actually hurt, maybe even killed. Actors have had clauses for not using their likeness for a long time now, if their face is 3D scanned, the use cases are carefully limited. They can't just put Brad Pitt in a random commercial even though they have the scans of his face and body and can find a voice actor.
- rgrieselhuber 5y agoNot sure why this would be downvoted.
- wutbrodo 5y agoHN has by far the most bizarre downvote patterns I've ever seen. Not really worth wondering about.
- rgrieselhuber 5y agoI think there are definite categories. They seem to range from legitimate uses of downvoting such as against obvious trolls, facetious argumentation, etc. to enforcement of ideological tyranny. It's always interesting to analyze.
- SketchySeaBeast 5y ago> enforcement of ideological tyranny Boy, that escalated quickly.
- wutbrodo 5y agoWell sure, describing downvote patterns as weird doesn't mean that the majority of downvotes are bizarre. The bulk are completely comprehensible. But I can't think of anywhere else where I see as many completely reasonable comments heavily downvoted for incomprehensible reasons.
- rgrieselhuber 5y agoYeah I agree on your last point. I sometimes wonder if some of it is automated / training data being built but you never know.
- rootusrootus 5y agoIMO the voting pattern changes pretty clearly as the Earth turns and different groups of people become the dominant readers at any given moment.
- wutbrodo 5y agoThis dynamic is true of places like Reddit too, or any forum with a global audience. But I can't think of any subreddit I've ever observed such weird downvote patterns on.
- sillyquiet 5y agoThis sometimes is very advantageous for celebrities. Bruce Willis got paid an insane amount of money for his deepfaked face to appear in a Russian commercial. He literally got paid a couple million dollars to do NOTHING except agree to his likeness being used. https://www.ign.com/articles/bruce-willis-russian-commercial-deepfake https://www.ign.com/articles/bruce-willis-russian-commercial...
- space_ghost 5y agoThere's a subplot in The Newsroom where a producer edits an interviewee out of context, leading to the network broadcasting false accusations of serious war crimes. The producer wasn't careful enough, and a clock visible in the background is seen to jump around. Without that clock it would have been undetectable.
- Schiendelman 5y agoLife imitates art - when Russia started attacking Ukraine, RT reported a 5pm emergency meeting of their military leaders. Included was a photo showing two of their watches at 11:45. (The report was at about 7pm the same day, so it couldn’t have just been a long meeting)
- dugmartin 5y agoAnd parodied by the Simpsons here: https://youtu.be/qEGFaOeUm2A https://youtu.be/qEGFaOeUm2A
- vlovich123 5y agoThat episode is from November 27, 1994. That Newsroom episode aired July 28, 2013. Less Simpsons parodying Newsroom and more them predicting the future [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_to_the_Future https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_to_the_Future
- lupire 5y agoSimpsons Already Did It https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpsons_Already_Did_It https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpsons_Already_Did_It
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- Jiro 5y agoMichael Moore did this in Bowling for Columbine.
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- slothtrop 5y agoEven malicious editing has been around a long time, but the ease and accessibility, coupled with social media proliferation, is on another level. I'm not sure to what extent this matters yet when mere text on a screen can fool certain demographics. Is doctored footage/images a moot point if the target viewers are going to believe it anyway? What we need is better inoculation to psycho misinformation politics