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Aren't there warrant canaries set up to prevent this? Every website that can be compelled to behave that way should have one.
by TuringTest 5y ago
Aren't there warrant canaries set up to prevent this? Every website that can be compelled to behave that way should have one.
- rwmj 5y agoHow could a warrant canary work when you don't know which exit node you will connect to?
- krageon 5y ago> Aren't there warrant canaries set up to prevent this? No, because the police will tell you to not tell anyone about the court order. If you do so (for example using a warrant canary), you will be in big trouble. Those canaries were always a convenient fiction, almost to the point of it being entirely in question whether or not this fiction was created in good faith.
- Joakal 5y agoCan those warrant canaries holders who follow police/court orders, be sued for false advertising? Seems like a catch 22 that it's a lose-lose.
- krageon 5y agoIf being sued for false advertising was a real risk, advertising would be a lot more truthful :)
- FeepingCreature 5y agoYou can always be in trouble by the police for any reason or no reason at all. The question is law. The notion of a warrant canary is that the police cannot compel you to state that you are not under a court order. They can annoy you to lie, and they can always break the law, but they cannot legally force you to. To claim that regardless of this, the police can compel you to lie, is tantamount to saying that the rule of law has failed. ( https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/04/warrant-canary-faq https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/04/warrant-canary-faq )
- vageli 5y agoHas this ever been tested in court?
- FeepingCreature 5y agoNot to my knowledge. Which can mean "no company has tried" or "no TLA has tried".
- krageon 5y ago> To claim that regardless of this, the police can compel you to lie, is tantamount to saying that the rule of law has failed. Your life quality will take a sharp negative dive if you don't conform to the spirit of what they ask you. Whether or not such things are legal really is immaterial: You will be in trouble anyway. As such, I dislike advice that leans on what the law says.
- Jerrrry 5y agoThey cannot compel someone to re-authorize a deadman switches' canary. If the canary doesn't receive a signed message within X amount of days, the canary sings. Nobody can force someone to do work or self-incriminate.