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How do you explain non-human intelligence and tool usage, where there is no known culture?
by 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
How do you explain non-human intelligence and tool usage, where there is no known culture?
- visarga 5y agoThey can still individually learn tool usage by imitation, random exploration and reinforcement. But without culture they can't build on it.
- krageon 5y agoHuman supremacist world-view. Sadly incredibly common, once you drill down.
- visarga 5y agoIt's culture-supremacist actually. Information needs to copy itself into the future, that's the essence of both life (genes) and culture (memes).
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y agoCulture supremacy is still just bio-supremacy. Memes don’t exist except through genes. Arguing that memes exist outside of genes is like arguing that the Platonic solids are real.
- maze-le 5y agoActually, tool usage in primates is a form of culture (protoculture). Those groups that have mastered it can be better of than those that didn't -- giving them an evolutionary advantage. The "tools" can be suprisingly complex, see for example: https://web.archive.org/web/20110608070200/http://www.uic.edu/classes/osci/osci590/8_1%20Chimpanzee%20Medicine%20Chest.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20110608070200/http://www.uic.ed...
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y agoWhat about birds? https://www.wired.com/2011/01/new-crow-tools/ https://www.wired.com/2011/01/new-crow-tools/
- maze-le 5y agoThat is pretty interesting -- I didn't knew that. I would classify this behaviour also as protocultural.
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y agoWhat about swarm intelligence of ants and bees? Protoculture as well?