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The Drunk Men I Drive Around Every Night (2020)

• cafard 5y ago
  The guys sound like real gems. But I can certainly remember bartenders calling cabs for patrons, and noting down the cab number when it got there.
• zwkrt 5y ago
  By the author's logic, public transportation also enables binge drinking. I think they just dont like driving drunk rich people as their source of income so they wrote a diary entry about it.
  • bayesian_horse 5y ago
    You missed the hint about the domestic violence?
    • Decker87 5y ago
      So they don't like that either?
    • newbie789 5y ago
    • kortilla 5y ago
      Yes, the made up one. Do you think someone who spends $100 to get wasted at a bar and another $30 to get home is less likely to commit domestic violence than someone who can down a whole fifth of whiskey at home with no bartender supervision for $20? Lyft and Uber do not enable binge drinking, they enable social binge drinking. The violent drunks I knew of growing up were plenty content on getting hammered at home and becoming violent. Most would become violent well after they would have been cutoff by a bartender.
      • actionfromafar 5y ago
        I don't see any evidence your statement isn't made up either.
        • kortilla 5y ago
          Well it’s pretty common knowledge that bartenders cutoff drunks and that alcohol is cheaper to consume in the home. Which of those would you like to dig into first?
          • actionfromafar 5y ago
            None of those, but the implicit assumption that the pool of violent drunks won't increase when the bar (pun intended) for binge drinking in any setting is lowered.
      • kjkjadksj 5y ago
        All lyft and uber have done in terms of social drinking was give you an option to pay for a dd rather than have one of your friends on the role. This is probably still true today but bars can call taxis for you.
      • bayesian_horse 5y ago
        For me the point wasn't that much about enabling more domestic violence, but about being "in the loop" of that particular incident. Also, yes, it is worse when the person is drinking out of the home, because that means family members have a lot less control over the drinking and less warning. And domestic violence really doesn't have a high requirement of blood alcohol level. Even very minor levels can disinhibit a person, especially if he is already habituated to act out on his family members.
  • bayindirh 5y ago
    And he backed his claims by some survey numbers, no?
    • Hendrikto 5y ago
      He listed some survey numbers. They don’t back his claims though. Classic correlation vs causation.
      • bayindirh 5y ago
        I don't agree. Convenience is a nice and valid reason to consume more and/or remove prohibitions. When something is cheap, it's consumed more. When it's free of consequences, consuming more is easier. Like how iPhone created a spike in data usage, being not subject to DUI or reducing chances of immediate death is a nice excuse to remove prohibitions and consume more alcohol.
        • belorn 5y ago
          Sweden follow that path of logic by imposing over 100% taxes on alcohol in order to discourage consumption. When a cup of beer costs around $10 it quickly becomes very expensive to get drunk. The state also has a monopoly on sales outside of bars, and the store closes fairly early on Fridays, is only open during a short period on Saturdays, and fully closed on Sundays. All with the primary goal of limiting consumption by making the purchasing less spontaneous and less convenient. There is however some debate if consumption is really reduced by making it expensive and inconvenient, and if it is simply a tax on poor people who are at work during weekdays.
        • Hendrikto 5y ago
          So you just speculate without evidence. I can also speculate: Population centers have a higher density of bars and taxis. Simply because there is a larger client base. Without evidence, you cannot tell.
  • sjf 5y ago
    Yeah, I don't get the point of this article, seems like venting mostly. They obviously resent being a 'designated driver on demand' but this is basically what an Uber driver is. It is also completely their choice to drive at the time when people are leaving bars.
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    • hackernewshell 5y ago
      Plus--I think he took creative license on the conversations. "Hold her down, and I'll keep her mouth busy". And of course they ask him why he isn't laughing. It just sounds made up for article dramitism. Do people drink more because of cheap ride share--yes. The problem is ride share is not cheap anymore.
    • SkinTaco 5y ago
      > It is also completely their choice to drive at the time when people are leaving bars. I browse a lot of driver subreddits (r/uberdrivers, r/doordash, r/doordash_drivers, etc) and it's surprisingly common to see people complain about things like this. Imo this is extra weird when you consider this is a major selling point of these apps - "You can work your own schedule and you won't have a boss to worry about" is part of the allure and is often even how the apps are advertised. I would be interested to know why this is such a common theme but people don't usually comment on the why on reddit
    • GekkePrutser 5y ago
      I can imagine you get a bit fed up with it after some guy pukes in your cab every night though. But he didn't mention this in the article at all so apparently that's not his complaint. What he does complain about is indeed what a taxi service is for. I wouldn't call Uber a "rideshare" anymore, this is how it started but all Uber drivers are pros now. It's just a "taxi license (and worker rights) avoiding taxi service" now :P The idea of ridesharing was that you'd take a trip to place X and people could chip in and join you for the trip. But literally nobody uses Uber for that anymore.
  • mvc 5y ago
    If they needed the barman's help to hail an Uber, I don't fancy their chances of getting home on public transport.
  • rwl 5y ago
    Public transportation does enable drinking. That is one reason why young people move to, and like to live in, cities with public transportation. But there are still huge, important differences between public transport and "ride sharing". Public transportation almost never takes you point to point. You are expected to navigate public transportation on your own, including getting in and out at the right stops. Public transportation usually has sharply reduced service several hours before bars close. You also need a ticket, which often means you must be sober enough to work a machine that only takes cash. If public transport is your ride home, you need to be a lot more sober than the people the author is writing about. There are important differences compared to taxis, too. To take a taxi, you must (often) be prepared to pay in cash. You must have enough verbal control to give your address. It is not implausible that ride sharing apps enable a kind of binge drinking that is qualitatively different from the kind people do when they have to take another way home.
    • fy20 5y ago
      > If public transport is your ride home, you need to be a lot more sober than the people the author is writing about Having lived in London when I was younger I beg to differ. I only ended up at the last stop and having to walk home a couple of miles a few times. One time I managed to cycle from Leicester Square to Chelsea - I don't know why, I didn't live anywhere near Chelsea.
      • tomcam 5y ago
        Gemma was why. Or Fiona? Fiona.
      • LilBytes 5y ago
        Yeah before ride sharing in the UK and later Australia, I got the train home, fell asleep, woke up in the middle of nowhere as the sun crept into view at least half a dozen times. Ride sharing certainly increased my chances of getting home successfully, though my anecdotal experience is it wouldn't have had an impact on levity or intoxication.
      • FpUser 5y ago
        I was in London on some software related business. So those brits invited me for a lunch at about 11AM. All came down to some place (my first time in London ever) and ordered pints. Talked a bit. Finished first pint then ordered another. After 5th pint I asked how about a lunch. This is a focken lunch was the answer. Loved those brits.
• bayesian_horse 5y ago
  Technically you can drink enough at a bar to require hailing a ride-share, once in a while, without qualifying for "binge drinking" or it affecting your health too much. After all, one or two glasses of beer can push you over the limit. I'm not sure what the limit is in the US. Here in Germany at least the "prudent" limit can easily be reached with one glass.
  • midnightclubbed 5y ago
    US is similar, at least California is. One glass is generally legally ok, two will likely push you over the limit. Obviously the alcohol content varies between beers (but is displayed on the menu) and different people metabolize differently but seems similar to German (and U.K.) laws.
    • t-3 5y ago
      One glass is generally NOT OK! It's usually a lesser charge, but blowing ANY measurable amount can land you in jail in many states.
  • weird-eye-issue 5y ago
    Yes and ironically this is very true if you don't drink much. Have two beers in an hour? Honestly you shouldn't be driving (at least for me personally I wouldn't)
    • BossingAround 5y ago
      Honestly, I can't even think straight after a single beer. In Germany, it was not uncommon to stock beers in the office fridge, but I could never understand how people can function even after a single beer.
      • weird-eye-issue 5y ago
        It's because they drink a lot (generally speaking). Speaking from personal experience...
• leoedin 5y ago
  I'm not particularly old and I can remember a time when we called cabs to get home after a night out. Sure, it was less convenient then Uber is, but it wasn't drastically so.
  • kortilla 5y ago
    You weren’t in the suburbs then. Nearly every time we would call a cab in the 90s/00s around bar close, you would either get rejected outright, given an hour long estimate, been ghosted, or given a $80 fare for a 15 min ride and the credit card machine would conveniently be “broken”.
    • LilBytes 5y ago
      I don't miss this at all.
  • chmod600 5y ago
    "Less convenient"? How about "doesn't show up"? Or "busy signal all night"?
    • ZeroGravitas 5y ago
      I think this explains why I felt odd reading the article. I guess there were some locations, I'm thinking rural but also just places with dysfunctional taxi regulations, where it was simply the norm to drive drunk before uber arrived. This is maybe a couple of decades longer than it was in places with decent taxi systems. So if you live in one of those areas, then you'd associate ride-sharing with this phenomenon, but if you didn't you'd have considered this as 'normal' a while ago and not see much difference when taxi's got apps. You see the same phenomenon in reverse, where people talk about ride-sharing as a positive revolution in their lives, and they're just talking about a taxi system that works, which is their experience, but isn't universal.
      • kortilla 5y ago
        > I guess there were some locations, The vast majority of the US. The Bay Area in all of the South Bay was like this. All of Seattle except for downtown proper was like this. Basically all of Denver. All of the DC suburbs.
• ipnon 5y ago
  The decorum in London and Tokyo dictates you don't talk to your cabbie and they don't talk to you. The drivers of the black cabs in London will not make small talk as a rule. It helps them focus on doing their job, and it prevents you from boring them with the 50th tall tale of the day. It certainly rubs the general American sentiment the wrong way but it has it's perks. In the case of this article the passengers would know they're expected to shut up until they return home, pay, and get out of the cab. This isn't to say cabbies never talk to customers (emergencies, change of plans), but the expectation that you should ask every service professional you encounter about how their day is going and what are their hobbies and what's their favorite color isn't a universal value. Some people like the author actually find it a little irritating!
  • jbm 5y ago
    This is hilariously wrong. Almost every cab driver I ever rode with in Tokyo would talk to you unless you were talking to someone else, or seemed like someone who didn't want to talk. Even the one taking my wife to the hospital to give birth was being a television trope of a terrified stuttering teenager while he drove her there. (Despite that being a reservation with the situation being explained beforehand!) Yes yes, anecdotal. I've also read Japanese-language books by cab drivers (ex: https://read.amazon.ca/kp/kshare?ref_=r_sa_glf_b_0_hdrw_ss_AAAUAAA&asin=B00CRXWYZW&id=ihuasb4ccvf6bfccy2hx4bagru&reshareId=6MBMWR1NFWRZ94W20CK5&reshareChannel=system https://read.amazon.ca/kp/kshare?ref_=r_sa_glf_b_0_hdrw_ss_A...) and the idea does not come up — ever. So yeah maybe an issue in some parts of Japan but not in Tokyo.
    • ipnon 5y ago
      I never let reality get in the way of making a good point. edit: The Japanese are also famous for treating foreigners and tourists differently.
    • mise_en_place 5y ago
      Do people use the taxi a lot in Tokyo? I’d assume with all the traffic the JR or Tokyo Metro would be faster. I don’t live in Japan though.
• chmod600 5y ago
  This seems more like a window into problem drinking than any influence on it.
  • SecurityLagoon 5y ago
    Yup, it may change the circumstances of their drinking but it isnt going to change their (literally) toxic relationship with alcohol.
  • earleybird 5y ago
    Also if anything rather than enabling it is exposing pre-existing issues with greater clarity.
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• ilaksh 5y ago
  Amazingly, almost no one will read this and see alcohol as being a significant part of the problem. The reason for this is the extremely successful marketing that has saturated the culture. You don't need to be an alcoholic, a wife-beater, or anything to get drunk. You just need to have one too many drinks a little too fast, and then its that much easier to make another wrong decision about the next drink.
  • ponow 5y ago
    Problem drinking isn't due to marketing, and precedes modern marketing by ... millenia.
    • paganel 5y ago
      It highly depends on the culture, also, there are cultures for which binge drinking is still seen as acceptable (for lack of a better word), especially if you're still bellow a certain age, i.e. "young". For example in Europe there's a certain divide between Northern (and technically some port of Central, from a latitude pov) Europe and its Southern parts, there's also a strong divide when it comes to how acceptable women getting shit-drunk during a night out is. The thing is that those Northern and Central European cultures are highly successful from an economic point of view, i.e. compared to other cultures, so whatever shitty thing they have with their culture of binge drinking is sort of hidden under the rug, instead of being put front and center and trying to fix it.
    • goodpoint 5y ago
      Citation needed.
  • standardUser 5y ago
    Some of us are good at getting drunk, enjoy it, and don't make regrettable decisions when drinking.
    • ilaksh 5y ago
      You don't ever make regrettable decisions when you are drunk?
• rendall 5y ago
  After the first couple of paragraphs I began to skim, so I may have missed the point the article was trying to make, but it certainly was not stated within the first few paragraphs. "Designated driving gigs" enable alcohol abuse among men? Alcohol abuse by men is a huge social problem? Drunk driving by men is bad but so is drinking to excess by men? I think it would have been a stronger article were it just a series of anecdotes about driving drunk people around, without the moral and social commentary, but then, it would not have been published in Slate.
  • JoeAltmaier 5y ago
    It wasn't an essay I don't think. It was a story. Most stories don't start with an abstract.
  • DonHopkins 5y ago
    It would probably have seemed like a stronger article to you if you'd actually taken the time to do more than just skim it, although oddly that didn't stop you from taking time to publicly announce that you didn't take the time to fully read the article and admit you may have missed the point, but then proffer your opinion anyway. After myself having taken the time to fully read the entire article, as well as all the paragraphs that you just wrote, plus most of what other people have written in this discussion, and then I've also taken the brief time to do some simple google queries, I'd like to kindly suggest that maybe some hard cold facts and statistics about reality would be stronger than a series of abstract anecdotes about driving drunk un-gendered people around. But don't worry, I don't expect you to take the time to read my suggestion or the facts, or anything else other people have posted to this discussion, after you already announced you didn't bother to read the whole article and may have missed the point, so you're under no obligation to subject yourself to any more arduous reading or point getting. http://www.drunkdrivingstats.org/menversuswomendrunkdrivingstatistics.html http://www.drunkdrivingstats.org/menversuswomendrunkdrivings... >Who Is At A Higher Risk Of Driving Drunk? >In 2010, men were responsible for four out of every five DUIs. And although only 11% of the adult population is made up of males between the ages of 21 and 34, this high-risk group was responsible for 32% of all drunk driving episodes. Last, but certainly not least, binge drinkers also fall into this high-risk group of those most likely to drink and drive. In fact, a male who drank at least five alcoholic beverages in a short amount of time (or a female who drank at least four) caused 85% of all reported drunk driving incidents. And as far as moral and social commentary goes, it's usually men who sexually harass drivers, and say things like "You hold her down, and I’ll keep her mouth busy" and then criticize other men for not laughing along. It's too bad that it hurts fragile male egos to read (or skim over, in your case) moral and social commentary instead of just dishing it out, but all the evidence supports it, so "man up". If you object to teaching science, history, facts, and statistics if they contradict your sexist, racist, and religious beliefs, or hurt your feelings by making you feel guilty about sexism and racism, then you could always move to Florida, which is now a "safe space" for bigots. Florida Senate passes GOP-backed ban on teaching students to 'feel guilt' for history: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/10/politics/florida-senate-crt-schools-businesses/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/10/politics/florida-senate-c...
• ponow 5y ago
  Wow, I have no sympathy for that driver. The sleazy beginning of that article, which glosses over the difference between drinking and drunk driving. If she doesn't like her passengers or what she's enabling, she should stop doing it.
  • tempestn 5y ago
    The author is male, FYI.
  • Digit-Al 5y ago
    The author of the article is called Peter Jakubowicz, so unlikely to be a "she".
    • bmsleight_ 5y ago
      "That hadn’t happened to me, but maybe it would be less likely for male drivers." His chosen gender is male.
      • Lascaille 5y ago
        You can read that sentence to both confirm and oppose the writer being male, FYI. Both 'like me' and 'unlike me' can be implied. You need more data than that sentence.
  • elihu 5y ago
    A lot of people do things they feel conflicted about, usually because they need the money but sometimes also because they aren't sure if what they're doing is beneficial or detrimental to society on average. Those people's stories are worth sharing I think. If you don't think they're interesting, that's fine too.
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• shmoopi 5y ago
  The main takeaway from this article has nothing to do with alcohol but actually how taxis seem to be completely unknown to the author or at least irrelevant. As I read along I just couldn't stop asking myself, didn't these guys have taxis before lyft and uber? And judging from the comments here, apparently in many places around the US, probably not (or they would just refuse to give you service). That's absolutely astounding.
  • Broken_Hippo 5y ago
    I've lived in plenty of towns without public transportation of any kind - including taxis. You might be able to call them from the next town over, but that's probably gonna cost you at least $100 if they'll do it at all And then in places with Taxis, most were pretty horrible. For example: My car broke once. Called to see about getting a ride to work the next day (There was no bus service, and at least half the trip had no sidewalks). I was told I'd have to call back when I needed it, and the waiting time could be anywhere from 15 minutes to 2 hours after I called. Which basically means that you can't make it to any appointment in an appropriate time frame. Half the time, the taxi was a poorly running car, sometimes dirty. I was not in a place with medallions, these were just poor taxi companies.
• valryon 5y ago
  Good time to recommend the game Night Call if you like the peculiar atmosphere of a big city at night from a taxi driver perspective.
• cshg 5y ago
  Interesting to see this so far up the ranks on Hacker News. Despite the content not being technical, cutting edge or intellectual as most stuff here (as also noted in the comments regarding the challenge to find clear takeaways). Maybe this indicates that a lot of people here can relate to the author's emotions regarding encountering people with alcohol problems, also in the tech scene?
• techwiz137 5y ago
  While the author is male and has encountered men who may are toxic and misogynistic, the author himself kind of comes off as a misandrist. If his job evokes such emotions and dread, perhaps this isn't the job for him.
• notRobot 5y ago
  I lived for a long time in a place that's super unsafe for women and members of the LGBT+ community (assault, rape, lynching, etc). When ridesharing apps came, they made commuting so much safer for these people. It's much, much easier to find transport, and the drivers know their locations are tracked so they tend to not misbehave. Not to mention that they broke the previous taxi companies' monopolies which used to have crazy prices - which made safe transport inaccessible to many. So if they're enabling people who like to get drunk to do so in a safer manner, so be it. It's a small cost to pay. Ride sharing apps aren't perfect, but they're much better than anything that came before.
  • kjkjadksj 5y ago
    For this reason I feel like rideshares have a mandate and shouldn’t have surge pricing for a customers. If you are blackout drunk and see ubers at 2am are $120, there is a nonzero chance you might just opt to drive drunk or do something else unsafe.
    • DonHopkins 5y ago
      Uber and Lyft could drop the 2am surge pricing, and replace it with heavy charges for puking, pissing yourself, hitting on the driver, and making misogynistic, racist, or homophobic remarks.
    • omegabravo 5y ago
      What is the alternative. Black out drunk at 2am and no rideshares available doesn't seem like a better option. Perhaps minimum loading after 10pm to help with driver availability and service providers providing a minimum of x vehicles per hour slot?
      • SomeBoolshit 5y ago
        Consistent prices?
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• RappingBoomer 5y ago
  why is it any of the author's business how much his customers drink? Nosy nanny state paradigm going on here...
  • epgui 5y ago
    Some people don't enjoy seeing others suffer. Whether you're having a great night or not, that binge alcohol drinking is basically poison. A socially accepted and ritualized poison, but a poison nonetheless.
• eloisius 5y ago
  Before Lyft and Uber, back in 2007-08 I worked for a DD startup called Zingo. Their pitch was you find yourself hammered at a bar with you car outside. Call Zingo, we dispatch a driver on a foldable two-stroke scooter. Pop it in the trunk, drive you home, and we disappear into the night. We had no app or even GPS nav (because I was in their car). I carried a Motorola radio and wore an orange safety jacket. Because it was explicitly a DD service and you had to have a car to start with, my customers were exclusively hammered, and it was a dark time for me to live through. I took 5-15 people home each night, and saw exactly the characters this article described. I actually plan to write about this in more detail one day, but after reading this I can't help but share a few anecdotes. On my very first night, very first pick-up, I puttered up to a steakhouse where a guy in a suit standing by a Mercedes waved at me and yelled "Zippy! Over here!" When we got in his car, the first thing he said is "you might as well put a fucking bullet in my head, 'cause I'm fucking dead when my wife hears that I just got fired." We don't provide that service, sir. The rest of the ride he told me about his leased AMG that I was driving and kept telling me to punch it every time we got a green light. I had nightly drunk Adams that were too hammered to even give me directions home. One quest I went on with Adam was first to go get chicken wings at a restaurant that I knew was certainly closed at 3:30, a half-hour past last call. After driving for 20-30 minutes to go see the closed restaurant I convinced him we should get him home. Like most hammered drunk men, he was confident he could give me turn-by-turn directions. He alternated between directions and spontaneous ideas of other places we could go to get him something to eat, and finally blacked out cold. I pulled over and shook him trying to wake him up, but he would just groan and push me away. I dug out his wallet, got his license and took him to the address on it. Luckily it wasn't that far. I walked him to the door and kept asking him "This is your place, right? We're home, right?" "Mmmm nnggg." His key didn't work. He was so noisy that someone came to the door. Apparently an old roommate that knew where he lived now, I wrote down the directions and drove him there. When we got there he was so out-cold that I couldn't get him to wake up at all. I left him in the car and hid his keys in the mailbox. Another story that sticks with me is a cantankerous old widow. I was dispatched to a fancy restaurant. Restaurant had called, not the customer, which is always a bad sign. When I arrived they were clearly in a dispute and she was angry that she had to leave. She didn't understand the concept of my job, and seemed to think I was some kind of escort or something. She didn't like my reflective orange jacket, "you really don't have anything nicer to wear? What kind of shirt do you have on under it?" She wasn't happy with my shirt either, so she said "fine, that'll have to do." I explained I was just taking her home. "Oh no you're not. Not yet". First I had to accompany her to the bar at another fancy restaurant. We charged by the hour and by the mile so, a stop along the way was technically part of our service if you wanted that. I felt beyond awkward as we walked to the door of this fancy place, me dressed like a street rat in a reflective jacket, and her a 60-70-year-old Miss Daisy, drunk as hell and ready to chew somebody out. By the grace of god, they wouldn't let me in because because of dress code. I don't know how I feel about the effect of ride-share apps upon alcoholism, but I know that chronically interacting with drunks was one of the most degrading and demoralizing experiences I've had. I have many more awful stories. The girl that threw up all over the inside of her own car. The woman, a regular I often picked up with her husband, who I picked up with another man one night and she tipped me $100 not to say anything next time I picked her up with her husband. The disgustingly drunk and overweight big shots who were outraged that they'd just been rejected by a woman--usually the same guys that wanted to tell me about their AMGs and tell me to "punch it." Blacked out people that I didn't know how to get home. Lots of awful stories, but I'll afflict them upon the world some other day.
• Illniyar 5y ago
  >I’ve driven scores of people, mostly middle-aged men, home at around 2:30 a.m. in and around Portland, Oregon That surprised me. I would have thought most Uber/Lyft middle of the night drunk customers would be young adults.
  • rufus_foreman 5y ago
    The young adults live in SE Portland and can stagger home. Uber is for people who live in the suburbs.
• stavros 5y ago
  Lots of people here are treating the transportation part of this as the part we can influence, but as someone from a society that rarely gets blackout-drunk when going out, it's perplexing to me why people can't simply drink less.
  • cj 5y ago
    > as someone from a society that rarely gets blackout-drunk What society are you in that doesn't heavily drink?
    • stavros 5y ago
      Greek society.
• DonHopkins 5y ago
  Maybe if Uber and Lyft delivered cannabis and pizza, more people would stay home and get stoned playing video games, watching netflix, and chilling, instead of going out and binge drinking. Uber enters booming cannabis market with orders in Ontario: https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/exclusive-uber-takes-new-trip-with-cannabis-delivery-ontario-2021-11-22/ https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/exclusive-uber-t...
• norswap 5y ago
  What a hack article, trying to make something that's obviously a good service to many people look bad, not via hard evidence by shady insinuations, and thus failing at it miserably.
• teleforce 5y ago
  "The night before I picked up James, I picked up Adam, at the same West Union Sports Pub. I pick up a lot of these Adams. I suspect most are fiftysomethings who’ve made gobs of money at nearby big-tech campuses, like Intel’s, but I can’t be sure" Based on the article's title initially I thought most of his clients are broken young men in their early 20s. Apparently not and the fact is quite the opposite with the majority are the wealthy old drunk men. It seems that money cannot buy you happiness.