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Cursory look gives you a ~$3500 price tag for a gaming PC with a 3090 [1], vs. at least $4k for a Mac Studio with an M1 Ultra. Roughly the same ballpark, but I
by whoisburbansky 5y ago
Cursory look gives you a ~$3500 price tag for a gaming PC with a 3090 [1], vs. at least $4k for a Mac Studio with an M1 Ultra. Roughly the same ballpark, but I wouldn't call the M1 Ultra more affordable given those numbers.
1. https://techguided.com/best-rtx-3090-gaming-pc/#:~:text=With%20this%20build%2C%20and%20an,for%20a%20little%20over%20%243%2C500 https://techguided.com/best-rtx-3090-gaming-pc/#:~:text=With....
- vimy 5y agoYou also need to compare the right cpu. M1 Ultra cpu is the equivalent of the fastest threadripper. Which costs $3990. So a pc with similar performance would be $7500
- cyber_kinetist 5y agoNot the top-of-the-line threadripper (which can go up to 32c/64t), but probably similar to the 5950x (16c/32t), which costs like 1000$. But you’re comparing apples to oranges, because the real advantage of M1 chips is the unified memory - almost no CPU-GPU communication overhead, and that the GPU can use ginormous amounts of memory.
- GekkePrutser 5y agoA threadripper also has many more PCIe lanes than a Ryzen. It's a bit of a different usecase I think although there's overlap.
- BugsJustFindMe 5y ago> Cursory look gives you a ~$3500 price tag for a gaming PC with a 3090 That 3500 is for a DIY build. So, sure, you can always save on labor and hassle, but prebuilt 3090 rigs commonly cost over 4k. And if you don't want to buy from Amazon because of their notorious history of mixing components from different suppliers and reselling used returns, oof, good luck even getting one.
- sudosysgen 5y agoPrebuilt 3090 builds can often be found for less than the cost of the corresponding parts.
- airstrike 5y agoYou mean I get to save AND have fun building my own PC?
- _joel 5y agoFSVO fun if you use Newegg
- chrisweekly 5y agoFSVO: For Some Value Of (I've been accused of overuse of acronyms, but that one's rare!)
- unicornfinder 5y agoNot to mention if you build your own PC you can upgrade the parts as and when, unlike with the new Mac where you'll eventually just be replacing the whole thing.
- ricardobeat 5y agoSince the context here is using these machines for work, a mid-level engineer will easily cost an extra $1000* in his own time to put that together :) EDIT: I’m quite confident this is not at all an exaggeration. Unless you have put together PCs for a living. $100/h (total employment cost, not just salary), 1-2 hours of actual build & setup, 8 more hours of speccing out parts, buying, taking delivery, installing stuff and messing around with windows/Linux (I’ve probably spent 40 hours+ in the past couple years just fixing stuff in my windows gaming pc. At least 1 of those looking for a cabled keyboard so I could boot it up the first time, ended up having a friend drive over with his :D)
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- gjsman-1000 5y agoThey are also absolutely massive and probably much more expensive long-term because of the massively increased electricity usage.
- kllrnohj 5y agoUnless you're running a farm of these, the power cost differences is going to be largely unnoticeable. Like even in a country with very expensive power, you're talking a ~$0.10/USD per hour premium to have a 3090 at full bore. And that's assuming the M1 Ultra manages to achieve the same performance as the 3090, which is going to be extremely workload dependent going off of the existing M1 GPU results.
- FridgeSeal 5y agoHahaha good luck getting your hands on a 30xx series card though. Here in Australia, 3090’s go for close to 3k on their own.
- sorry_outta_gas 5y agoWe've been buying tons of 3090s at work for about 1.6 USD- 2k USD without to much trouble
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- nightfly 5y ago> tons
- 1123581321 5y agoHey, at 5lbs each a ton is only 400 cards!
- dmz73 5y agoAnd cheapest Mac Studio with M1 ultra is A$6000 so yes.... 20-Core CPU 48-Core GPU 32-Core Neural Engine 64GB unified memory 1TB SSD storage¹ Front: Two Thunderbolt 4 ports, one SDXC card slot Back: Four Thunderbolt 4 ports, two USB-A ports, one HDMI port, one 10Gb Ethernet port, one 3.5-mm headphone jack A$6,099.00
- IndrekR 5y agoI can right now (ok, in the morning actually) walk into a computer store across the road here and buy 3090 off the shelf for 2299..2499€ (different makes and models). Those are in stock and physically on the shelf. Same for lesser cards of same series or AMD RX6000.
- Domenic_S 5y agoThose are scalper prices. Anyone can get a 3090 tomorrow for that price.
- hajile 5y agoI can't put a 3090 into a 3.5 liter case. Even a 10 liter case is really pushing it. That's before mentioning power savings. 3090 real world power when in use is something like 4x as high.