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Same UK that said it would back Ukraine if Russia invaded? And then 2 days later was like “nope, best we can do is hopes and prayers (and some cheap weapons)”?

by bnt 5y ago

Jimbob1415 5y ago
That is a very surprisingly jaded take on the aid that the UK has supplied, and in my opinion incorrect. As per the details outlined here[0], the UK has supplied the following in military aid alone (see linked article for financial, and humanitarian aid). > Trained 22,000 Ukrainian troops since 2015 as part of Operational Orbital > Delivered 20 armoured vehicles since 2015. > Delivered "thousands" of NLAW anti-armour weapons (~£20,000 each) > Sale of two Sandown-class minehunters. > £1.7bn agreement to support the acquisition of eight missile craft and one frigate. > Deployment of RC-135W Rivet Joint surveillance aircraft to provide information on size and position of Russian forces. > Unspecified further military aid, on 28 February 2022. > ISTAR (intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance) support, both standalone and in partnership with the US. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#Provided_by_sovereign_states https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_aid_to_Ukraine...
- zo1 5y ago
  I don't get it. Isn't there some sort of convention or international law prohibiting providing weapons in armed conflicts?
  - eveningcoffee 5y ago
    You believe that there is an international law that states that an oppressor should be left alone?
  - nradov 5y ago
    The UK is not a signatory to any treaty that would prohibit providing conventional weapons to Ukraine.
megapolitics 5y ago
>Same UK that said it would back Ukraine if Russia invaded? The UK was always very clear that the backing to Ukraine would be in the form of the supply of weapons to Ukraine and sanctions on Russia. Nothing more was ever promised.
- MomoXenosaga 5y ago
  Direct combat involvement would lead to WW3. As bad as things are for Ukraine a nuclear wasteland is worse. Nuclear armed states don't fight eachother directly.

Same UK that said it would back Ukraine if Russia invaded? And then 2 days later was like “nope, best we can do is hopes and prayers (and some cheap weapons)”?

by bnt 5y ago

Same UK that said it would back Ukraine if Russia invaded? And then 2 days later was like “nope, best we can do is hopes and prayers (and some cheap weapons)”?

Jimbob1415 5y ago

That is a very surprisingly jaded take on the aid that the UK has supplied, and in my opinion incorrect. As per the details outlined here[0], the UK has supplied the following in military aid alone (see linked article for financial, and humanitarian aid). > Trained 22,000 Ukrainian troops since 2015 as part of Operational Orbital > Delivered 20 armoured vehicles since 2015. > Delivered "thousands" of NLAW anti-armour weapons (~£20,000 each) > Sale of two Sandown-class minehunters. > £1.7bn agreement to support the acquisition of eight missile craft and one frigate. > Deployment of RC-135W Rivet Joint surveillance aircraft to provide information on size and position of Russian forces. > Unspecified further military aid, on 28 February 2022. > ISTAR (intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance) support, both standalone and in partnership with the US. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#Provided_by_sovereign_states https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_aid_to_Ukraine...

zo1 5y ago
I don't get it. Isn't there some sort of convention or international law prohibiting providing weapons in armed conflicts?
- eveningcoffee 5y ago
  You believe that there is an international law that states that an oppressor should be left alone?
- nradov 5y ago
  The UK is not a signatory to any treaty that would prohibit providing conventional weapons to Ukraine.

megapolitics 5y ago

>Same UK that said it would back Ukraine if Russia invaded? The UK was always very clear that the backing to Ukraine would be in the form of the supply of weapons to Ukraine and sanctions on Russia. Nothing more was ever promised.

MomoXenosaga 5y ago
Direct combat involvement would lead to WW3. As bad as things are for Ukraine a nuclear wasteland is worse. Nuclear armed states don't fight eachother directly.