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Yeah 13 Pro here. I sold my DSLR last year. I don't need it any more and I hated carrying it around everywhere.

by hughrr 5y ago

ghaff 5y ago
I have a fairly large FF DSLR Canon system that I rarely use at this point--though not sure if it's worth selling. (I do use it now and then.) I use my Fujifilm mirrorless setup more but even that almost has to be a longer trip where I plan to take a lot of pictures. iPhone is fine for most purposes.
- hughrr 5y ago
  Yeah I do a lot of walking and long trips. I had a mid range DSLR and it was horrible carrying it everywhere and juggling lenses and batteries. The iPhone works 90% of the cases perfectly and the last 10% of the cases, I am happy with the compromise. Edit: The thing that really killed the DSLR for me was lugging the whole kit up Scafell Pike in the pissing rain and cold in the UK. I got some good photos in the morning but carried a brick for the entire day after the battery dumped because of the cold. I had an iPhone XR back then and that kept me going all day fine. When I got back the whole damn camera despite being weather sealed had condensation in it.
  - mnw21cam 5y ago
    The weather seal may not have been breached. If you put your camera together in a nice warm house, then it would have trapped warm moist air inside it. When you carried it in the cold, the moisture in the air would have condensed. Best advice with batteries is to keep them in your coat pocket, where they stay reasonably warm.
  - mkr-hn 5y ago
    No manufacturer will actually guarantee their weather sealing. It surprised me when I went and researched it. YouTuber James Popsys[0] takes his cameras out in the cold and wet all the time, so whatever he uses is probably a good starting point if you decide to try interchangeable lens cameras again and want one that actually handles moist weather well. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9VAidHrnY8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9VAidHrnY8
    - ghaff 5y ago
      Yeah. But people are pretty locked into their systems.
      - mkr-hn 5y ago
        My recommendation is specific to someone who opted out of systems in favor of an iPhone.
    - adament 5y ago
      OM System (the camera division of Olympus sold off as a separate company) recently announced their OM-1 camera which together with a some of their expensive lenses got an IP53 rating. Which is still a less than many smartphones.
mrfusion 5y ago
It’s really that comparable??
- unfocussed_mike 5y ago
  They aren't comparable, not really. In the same way that an 8x10" camera and a full-frame camera aren't. But they are excellent. Good phone cameras have a value proposition all of their own, and they are utterly changing what we expect from photography. My mobile has taught me that a lot of what I relied on or worked with in a DSLR or mirrorless is a crutch. Mobile phone cameras force you, for example, to really think about composition, because you can't simply blur out the bits you don't like (portrait mode still sucks). They force you to think of other ways to isolate subjects, other ways to make use of light and contrast. I've owned a lot of kit over 20 years or so, though I still own a lot of it -- I'm using a 14-year-old full frame DSLR and a seven year old full-frame mirrorless. In the last two years, when studio portrait photography has been complicated or impossible, I have used my phone a lot, when out walking by myself. What I thought was just a way to not-totally-give-up photography has turned into a work of its own. It will anger a lot of photographers who like to whine about how mobile phone cameras can't do X, Y and Z, but here's the truth: if you don't understand what a mobile phone camera can teach you as a photographer, you're probably not really trying.
  - Wistar 5y ago
    I shoot professionally (DSLR) and there are situations in my work (automotive) where my iPhone 12 mini just won't work BUT there are also lot of situations in my work where the iPhone could get a better shot—or, at least, get a good shot more easily. A solid color workflow, tilt-shift/specialized optics, high resolution, and lighting/strobe control all go to the DSLR system, whereas just about everything else goes to the iPhone.
  - cycomanic 5y ago
    > My mobile has taught me that a lot of what I relied on or worked with in a DSLR or mirrorless is a crutch. > Mobile phone cameras force you, for example, to really think about composition, because you can't simply blur out the bits you don't like (portrait mode still sucks). They force you to think of other ways to isolate subjects, other ways to make use of light and contrast. I would argue that Bokeh is an incredibly important tool that is part of composition and saying it is just there to "blur out the bits you don't like" seems weird to me.
makeitdouble 5y ago
> I hated carrying it around everywhere. It really boils down to this. A lot of people have enough pocket space to need no bag most of the time, so having one just for the camera is extra grating. What suprises me the most is that on the other side, smartphone photo UI hasn’t progressed much from the early days. A lot of my shots that fail on smartphone are because of the controls. The cycle of zooming/framing then locking focus and/or exposure is still a pain, adjusting exposition, forcing an ISO setting that could result in a bad photo is out of the window. I ended up bringing an old DSLR on random walks when I might want to capture stray cats and don’t care about the extra bulk. All of these are easier to do with third party apps, but those aren’t available on quick access. And taking photos out of quick access is so slow. A DSLR is ready instantly from power down, we’re happy if the phone instantly unlocks.

Yeah 13 Pro here. I sold my DSLR last year. I don't need it any more and I hated carrying it around everywhere.

by hughrr 5y ago

Yeah 13 Pro here. I sold my DSLR last year. I don't need it any more and I hated carrying it around everywhere.

I have a fairly large FF DSLR Canon system that I rarely use at this point--though not sure if it's worth selling. (I do use it now and then.) I use my Fujifilm mirrorless setup more but even that almost has to be a longer trip where I plan to take a lot of pictures. iPhone is fine for most purposes.

hughrr 5y ago
Yeah I do a lot of walking and long trips. I had a mid range DSLR and it was horrible carrying it everywhere and juggling lenses and batteries. The iPhone works 90% of the cases perfectly and the last 10% of the cases, I am happy with the compromise. Edit: The thing that really killed the DSLR for me was lugging the whole kit up Scafell Pike in the pissing rain and cold in the UK. I got some good photos in the morning but carried a brick for the entire day after the battery dumped because of the cold. I had an iPhone XR back then and that kept me going all day fine. When I got back the whole damn camera despite being weather sealed had condensation in it.
- mnw21cam 5y ago
  The weather seal may not have been breached. If you put your camera together in a nice warm house, then it would have trapped warm moist air inside it. When you carried it in the cold, the moisture in the air would have condensed. Best advice with batteries is to keep them in your coat pocket, where they stay reasonably warm.
- mkr-hn 5y ago
  No manufacturer will actually guarantee their weather sealing. It surprised me when I went and researched it. YouTuber James Popsys[0] takes his cameras out in the cold and wet all the time, so whatever he uses is probably a good starting point if you decide to try interchangeable lens cameras again and want one that actually handles moist weather well. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9VAidHrnY8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9VAidHrnY8
  - ghaff 5y ago
    Yeah. But people are pretty locked into their systems.
    - mkr-hn 5y ago
      My recommendation is specific to someone who opted out of systems in favor of an iPhone.
  - adament 5y ago
    OM System (the camera division of Olympus sold off as a separate company) recently announced their OM-1 camera which together with a some of their expensive lenses got an IP53 rating. Which is still a less than many smartphones.

mrfusion 5y ago

It’s really that comparable??

unfocussed_mike 5y ago
They aren't comparable, not really. In the same way that an 8x10" camera and a full-frame camera aren't. But they are excellent. Good phone cameras have a value proposition all of their own, and they are utterly changing what we expect from photography. My mobile has taught me that a lot of what I relied on or worked with in a DSLR or mirrorless is a crutch. Mobile phone cameras force you, for example, to really think about composition, because you can't simply blur out the bits you don't like (portrait mode still sucks). They force you to think of other ways to isolate subjects, other ways to make use of light and contrast. I've owned a lot of kit over 20 years or so, though I still own a lot of it -- I'm using a 14-year-old full frame DSLR and a seven year old full-frame mirrorless. In the last two years, when studio portrait photography has been complicated or impossible, I have used my phone a lot, when out walking by myself. What I thought was just a way to not-totally-give-up photography has turned into a work of its own. It will anger a lot of photographers who like to whine about how mobile phone cameras can't do X, Y and Z, but here's the truth: if you don't understand what a mobile phone camera can teach you as a photographer, you're probably not really trying.
- Wistar 5y ago
  I shoot professionally (DSLR) and there are situations in my work (automotive) where my iPhone 12 mini just won't work BUT there are also lot of situations in my work where the iPhone could get a better shot—or, at least, get a good shot more easily. A solid color workflow, tilt-shift/specialized optics, high resolution, and lighting/strobe control all go to the DSLR system, whereas just about everything else goes to the iPhone.
- cycomanic 5y ago
  > My mobile has taught me that a lot of what I relied on or worked with in a DSLR or mirrorless is a crutch. > Mobile phone cameras force you, for example, to really think about composition, because you can't simply blur out the bits you don't like (portrait mode still sucks). They force you to think of other ways to isolate subjects, other ways to make use of light and contrast. I would argue that Bokeh is an incredibly important tool that is part of composition and saying it is just there to "blur out the bits you don't like" seems weird to me.

makeitdouble 5y ago

> I hated carrying it around everywhere. It really boils down to this. A lot of people have enough pocket space to need no bag most of the time, so having one just for the camera is extra grating. What suprises me the most is that on the other side, smartphone photo UI hasn’t progressed much from the early days. A lot of my shots that fail on smartphone are because of the controls. The cycle of zooming/framing then locking focus and/or exposure is still a pain, adjusting exposition, forcing an ISO setting that could result in a bad photo is out of the window. I ended up bringing an old DSLR on random walks when I might want to capture stray cats and don’t care about the extra bulk. All of these are easier to do with third party apps, but those aren’t available on quick access. And taking photos out of quick access is so slow. A DSLR is ready instantly from power down, we’re happy if the phone instantly unlocks.