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I’m starting to think people buy this stuff on purpose to get attention on the internet by complaining about it. Why on earth would i buy an oven with Wi-Fi and

I’m starting to think people buy this stuff on purpose to get attention on the internet by complaining about it. Why on earth would i buy an oven with Wi-Fi and NOT think the manufacturer would enforce the use of it…

rootusrootus 5y ago
I think it is a legitimate complaint, even if they did post a disclaimer in the ad that said you had to connect to WiFi for full features. The market is having a tough time adjusting to this tactic, which seems to work primarily by preying on consumers that mostly do not know better. It's how we ended up with all good quality large televisions being Smart TVs, with no viable alternative. So people should complain, publicly, loudly, and demonstrate that a market exists for dumb devices.
SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
This isn't at all a common expectation. I own five Wi-Fi enabled devices, and only one (the Chromecast) makes any attempt to enforce the use of it.
- dtgriscom 5y ago
  Hypothetically, what would you like do with a Chromecast without access to a network?
  - vetinari 5y ago
    Theoretically, Google Nest Mini (not Chromecast, I know, but close) could be used as a bluetooth speaker. But I never managed to do it. Trying to enable pairing always ends up with an error message.
    - bobsmooth 5y ago
      You have to connect to it through the Home app to stream.
      - vetinari 5y ago
        I don't mean streaming the sound output via the home app (it fails too, more than 50%), but streaming over bluetooth, with A2DP. It is supposedly supported, except that I cannot enable pairing mode (also in the home app) in order for pairing with bt sources. The difference is, that it doesn't have to go via access point, both ways, but directly. Especially handy if both of the devices are near each other and the access point is not.
  - SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
    There's no reason in principle that a Chromecast device couldn't include some local storage to support an offline viewing mode, although I do think they have a much stronger case that it would be annoying and inconvenient to build than for a GE oven.

rootusrootus 5y ago

I think it is a legitimate complaint, even if they did post a disclaimer in the ad that said you had to connect to WiFi for full features. The market is having a tough time adjusting to this tactic, which seems to work primarily by preying on consumers that mostly do not know better. It's how we ended up with all good quality large televisions being Smart TVs, with no viable alternative. So people should complain, publicly, loudly, and demonstrate that a market exists for dumb devices.

SpicyLemonZest 5y ago

This isn't at all a common expectation. I own five Wi-Fi enabled devices, and only one (the Chromecast) makes any attempt to enforce the use of it.

dtgriscom 5y ago
Hypothetically, what would you like do with a Chromecast without access to a network?
- vetinari 5y ago
  Theoretically, Google Nest Mini (not Chromecast, I know, but close) could be used as a bluetooth speaker. But I never managed to do it. Trying to enable pairing always ends up with an error message.
  - bobsmooth 5y ago
    You have to connect to it through the Home app to stream.
    - vetinari 5y ago
      I don't mean streaming the sound output via the home app (it fails too, more than 50%), but streaming over bluetooth, with A2DP. It is supposedly supported, except that I cannot enable pairing mode (also in the home app) in order for pairing with bt sources. The difference is, that it doesn't have to go via access point, both ways, but directly. Especially handy if both of the devices are near each other and the access point is not.
- SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
  There's no reason in principle that a Chromecast device couldn't include some local storage to support an offline viewing mode, although I do think they have a much stronger case that it would be annoying and inconvenient to build than for a GE oven.