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I've been in touch with my family in and around Moscow. Older generation is militantly pro-Putin, as a direct result of listening to the what the TV spews. My g

I've been in touch with my family in and around Moscow. Older generation is militantly pro-Putin, as a direct result of listening to the what the TV spews. My generation is ignoring it all and is keeping their heads down because it is too dangerous to express anything. My uncle who had a green card and had an opportunity to settle here in USA couple of decades ago but chose not to is being very philosophical, and says he's at least happy to have pre-paid for Egypt resort in the fall before the money became completely inflated away. I am unconvinced that he's going to be able to enjoy it and wish he has made a different choice on the green card.

ipv6ipv4 5y ago
Can you be more precise with which generations you are referring to? Maybe age ranges?
- 5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
  I am not from Russia, but have a lot of friends and relatives there. In my circles everyone below 40 years of age is strongly anti-regime. Especially below 30. Many of them have left the country (everyone who could basically, and one has bought the ticket and is waiting to leave soon). Above that age group it's hit or miss, and depends whether or not the person in question watches television and bothers to read one of the few remaining independent news outlets. Pretty much everybody above 60 strongly believes in whatever bullshit Putin is saying this week. Although there is one exception that I know of.
  - pps 5y ago
    At the same time... https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t6b827/russian_influencers_having_the_exact_same_speech/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t6b827/russian_inf...
tartoran 5y ago
That polarising effect on older generations versus younger ones is something that has affected a large part of the world and I’d be curios to know whether it originated by one source or it simply emerged as a trend. First time I heard about troll farms was something brewed in Russia but it certainly spread around by then
- rectang 5y ago
  I would expect there to be a divide between Russians who were old enough to experience the full effect of the chaos and privation following the dissolution of the Soviet Union in the 1990s, and those who came of age later. In the US, where I live, we also have tension between the generations, but it has more to do with changing demographics. There's nothing comparable to what Russians experienced when the Soviet Union fell. Tensions between generations are probably the rule rather than the exception, at least over the last few hundred years of rapid change.
  - 5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
    Yeah, that's exactly what Putin built his whole career out of. It's mostly a myth (because the country was helped out of its troubles by high oil prices), and it's especially ironic now that the same person is pushing the country back into the 90s at full speed.
- throwaway_4ever 5y ago
  It originated as a consequence of a burgeoning free media environment due to the proliferation of smart phones and the internet. The younger generations, with their higher level of fluid intelligence, are able to approach things with better critical thinking and navigating the complexities of the internet world. The older generations aren't able to adapt and are sitting ducks for being easily manipulated by technology they don't understand.
  - ThalesX 5y ago
    I used to be of this opinion until I asked myself whether I'm really that fluidly intelligent and able to approach things with better critical thinking, and am not a sitting duck for being easily manipulated by technology. Turns out, I was wrong and I am human after all and there are ways to manipulate me, especially by using the technology I love so much.
ironcurtain 5y ago
Одиевич. Поляк?
- danielodievich 5y ago
  Polish Belarusian Russian Armenian mix. Lots of family in Byalistok, Gdansk, Krakow and other places like that, but same goes for Armenia and Ukraine

ipv6ipv4 5y ago

Can you be more precise with which generations you are referring to? Maybe age ranges?

5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
I am not from Russia, but have a lot of friends and relatives there. In my circles everyone below 40 years of age is strongly anti-regime. Especially below 30. Many of them have left the country (everyone who could basically, and one has bought the ticket and is waiting to leave soon). Above that age group it's hit or miss, and depends whether or not the person in question watches television and bothers to read one of the few remaining independent news outlets. Pretty much everybody above 60 strongly believes in whatever bullshit Putin is saying this week. Although there is one exception that I know of.
- pps 5y ago
  At the same time... https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t6b827/russian_influencers_having_the_exact_same_speech/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t6b827/russian_inf...

tartoran 5y ago

That polarising effect on older generations versus younger ones is something that has affected a large part of the world and I’d be curios to know whether it originated by one source or it simply emerged as a trend. First time I heard about troll farms was something brewed in Russia but it certainly spread around by then

rectang 5y ago
I would expect there to be a divide between Russians who were old enough to experience the full effect of the chaos and privation following the dissolution of the Soviet Union in the 1990s, and those who came of age later. In the US, where I live, we also have tension between the generations, but it has more to do with changing demographics. There's nothing comparable to what Russians experienced when the Soviet Union fell. Tensions between generations are probably the rule rather than the exception, at least over the last few hundred years of rapid change.
- 5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
  Yeah, that's exactly what Putin built his whole career out of. It's mostly a myth (because the country was helped out of its troubles by high oil prices), and it's especially ironic now that the same person is pushing the country back into the 90s at full speed.
throwaway_4ever 5y ago
It originated as a consequence of a burgeoning free media environment due to the proliferation of smart phones and the internet. The younger generations, with their higher level of fluid intelligence, are able to approach things with better critical thinking and navigating the complexities of the internet world. The older generations aren't able to adapt and are sitting ducks for being easily manipulated by technology they don't understand.
- ThalesX 5y ago
  I used to be of this opinion until I asked myself whether I'm really that fluidly intelligent and able to approach things with better critical thinking, and am not a sitting duck for being easily manipulated by technology. Turns out, I was wrong and I am human after all and there are ways to manipulate me, especially by using the technology I love so much.

ironcurtain 5y ago

Одиевич. Поляк?

danielodievich 5y ago
Polish Belarusian Russian Armenian mix. Lots of family in Byalistok, Gdansk, Krakow and other places like that, but same goes for Armenia and Ukraine