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I'd argue it's the opposite. Crypto is fairly easy to avoid as an individual - the only thing I can think of that crypto has "contaminated" is GPU prices. Othe

I'd argue it's the opposite. Crypto is fairly easy to avoid as an individual - the only thing I can think of that crypto has "contaminated" is GPU prices. Otherwise, don't get involved and just watch and laugh at the dumpster fire from a safe distance. You don't have to get involved in crypto to participate in society. Advertising on the other hand is very hard to avoid, and even blocking the ads themselves doesn't isolate you from its nasty effects such as the constant tracking and that a lot of products nowadays pivoted to be ad delivery mechanisms (try to buy a consumer-grade TV that doesn't show ads or spy on you). A lot of products & services you need to use to participate in society are involved with advertising and may sell out your data (and providing fake data might be impossible/illegal). Even some government departments (DMV, etc) do it.

Lascaille 5y ago
>Crypto is fairly easy to avoid as an individual It's probably contributing more to inflation than people believe. Both in the demand for resources and in terms of redistribution of wealth. Although probably not as much as the new work-from-home paradigm.
- quinnjh 5y ago
  Couldnt be the thousands of dollars handed out, making markets discount the dollar, could it?
  - Lascaille 5y ago
    Yes, that too. The printing has to catch up with them eventually.
einpoklum 5y ago
> try to buy a consumer-grade TV that doesn't show ads or spy on you I haven't bought a consumer TV since... well, actually, I just haven't ever actually bought one except second-hand non-smart TVs a decade ago. Is it literally that bad? i.e. does everything show ads? Can you root these machines and/or install non-ad-based apps instead?
- sam0x17 5y ago
  The only good panels now are also "smart" tvs with something like a roku or samsung spyware built in in an unavoidable way. You can't simply change inputs to avoid it because the whole OS you're changing inputs within is the smart TV's OS.
  - cupofpython 5y ago
    looks like there might be an emerging market for 60-inch computer monitors
    - amelius 5y ago
      Sadly, I suspect adtech is already working to target them too. What better way to fight adblockers?
      - sam0x17 5y ago
        Ads no longer work online, period. The ad industry is just 10 years behind acknowledging it. Most of what people pay for is just paying for the organic traffic you'd normally get with no ads so they don't give it to someone else. It's more of a protection racket than it is a source of genuine new customers.
        wst_ 5y ago
        I have rather different experience. Most people either don't care or don't know how to. Unless you're tech savvy you're watching ads. And if you're on mobile you're watching them anyway in many cases.
        sam0x17 5y ago
        People ignore ads either way these days, I mean
    - blaser-waffle 5y ago
hemloc_io 5y ago
Crypto is easy to avoid "for now". The endgame for crypto is tokenizing everything in some peoples eyes. Video game skins become NFTs that you now "own" instead of just being in-game. So you can transfer them around, sell them on composable markets etc. Assuming things actually get worked out you could see a merging of the digital and physical worlds assets. If this a good thing, or will even happen who knows.
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  Crypto is held back by its own stupidity & inefficiency - the system self-regulates well enough. The only thing a blockchain is good for is assets that fully live on the blockchain for which the source of truth is the blockchain itself - like cryptocurrencies. Putting NFTs, video game/metaverse avatars, real-world assets, etc will never work; it's at best a very inconvenient, inefficient database replacement, and at worst a scam.
  - arcticbull 5y ago
    This is something few have realized. Crypto guarantees can only ever extend to things that are wholly represented on-chain, and that's basically just cryptocurrencies. As soon as the chain reflects the real world it's at the mercy of the correct data being entered, or reality not changing around it. And this means pure cryptocurrencies, backed stablecoins do not offer any of the crypto guarantees either since they are representations of assets held in trust that can be seized. For a system to be trustless, decentralized and permissionless it must be entirely trustless, permissionless and decentralized. It's not a gradient, it's a step function. Once anything creeps in, all guarantees are void.
    - stuckkeys 5y ago
      Interesting take on this. Something to think about.
- arcticbull 5y ago
  > Video game skins become NFTs that you now "own" instead of just being in-game. This use case actually doesn't make sense if you think about it. Items only make sense in the context of a game, and you trust the game makers to honor it. At that point, there's no incentive for them to actually allow you to port in/port out items. Think about it this way: what good is the BFG from Unreal Tournament in Cooking Mama? Even in related games, guns from Battlefield 2042 in say COD Vanguard? Sounds pretty shit.
jandrese 5y ago
> Crypto is fairly easy to avoid as an individual Web3.0 folks are trying their best to change this.
matt-attack 5y ago
> may sell you out. Even HR departments. Got a new job and am completely spammed constantly at my brand new work email address.
yashasolutions 5y ago
> the only thing I can think of that crypto has "contaminated" is GPU prices. And storage. See Proof of Space and Chia.
ViViDboarder 5y ago
Many free CI services have stopped being a thing because people exploited the free compute for crypto mining. That’s directly impacted a lot of developers at least.

Lascaille 5y ago

>Crypto is fairly easy to avoid as an individual It's probably contributing more to inflation than people believe. Both in the demand for resources and in terms of redistribution of wealth. Although probably not as much as the new work-from-home paradigm.

quinnjh 5y ago
Couldnt be the thousands of dollars handed out, making markets discount the dollar, could it?
- Lascaille 5y ago
  Yes, that too. The printing has to catch up with them eventually.

einpoklum 5y ago

> try to buy a consumer-grade TV that doesn't show ads or spy on you I haven't bought a consumer TV since... well, actually, I just haven't ever actually bought one except second-hand non-smart TVs a decade ago. Is it literally that bad? i.e. does everything show ads? Can you root these machines and/or install non-ad-based apps instead?

sam0x17 5y ago
The only good panels now are also "smart" tvs with something like a roku or samsung spyware built in in an unavoidable way. You can't simply change inputs to avoid it because the whole OS you're changing inputs within is the smart TV's OS.
- cupofpython 5y ago
  looks like there might be an emerging market for 60-inch computer monitors
  - amelius 5y ago
    Sadly, I suspect adtech is already working to target them too. What better way to fight adblockers?
    - sam0x17 5y ago
      Ads no longer work online, period. The ad industry is just 10 years behind acknowledging it. Most of what people pay for is just paying for the organic traffic you'd normally get with no ads so they don't give it to someone else. It's more of a protection racket than it is a source of genuine new customers.
      - wst_ 5y ago
        I have rather different experience. Most people either don't care or don't know how to. Unless you're tech savvy you're watching ads. And if you're on mobile you're watching them anyway in many cases.
        sam0x17 5y ago
        People ignore ads either way these days, I mean
  - blaser-waffle 5y ago

hemloc_io 5y ago

Crypto is easy to avoid "for now". The endgame for crypto is tokenizing everything in some peoples eyes. Video game skins become NFTs that you now "own" instead of just being in-game. So you can transfer them around, sell them on composable markets etc. Assuming things actually get worked out you could see a merging of the digital and physical worlds assets. If this a good thing, or will even happen who knows.

Nextgrid 5y ago
Crypto is held back by its own stupidity & inefficiency - the system self-regulates well enough. The only thing a blockchain is good for is assets that fully live on the blockchain for which the source of truth is the blockchain itself - like cryptocurrencies. Putting NFTs, video game/metaverse avatars, real-world assets, etc will never work; it's at best a very inconvenient, inefficient database replacement, and at worst a scam.
- arcticbull 5y ago
  This is something few have realized. Crypto guarantees can only ever extend to things that are wholly represented on-chain, and that's basically just cryptocurrencies. As soon as the chain reflects the real world it's at the mercy of the correct data being entered, or reality not changing around it. And this means pure cryptocurrencies, backed stablecoins do not offer any of the crypto guarantees either since they are representations of assets held in trust that can be seized. For a system to be trustless, decentralized and permissionless it must be entirely trustless, permissionless and decentralized. It's not a gradient, it's a step function. Once anything creeps in, all guarantees are void.
  - stuckkeys 5y ago
    Interesting take on this. Something to think about.
arcticbull 5y ago
> Video game skins become NFTs that you now "own" instead of just being in-game. This use case actually doesn't make sense if you think about it. Items only make sense in the context of a game, and you trust the game makers to honor it. At that point, there's no incentive for them to actually allow you to port in/port out items. Think about it this way: what good is the BFG from Unreal Tournament in Cooking Mama? Even in related games, guns from Battlefield 2042 in say COD Vanguard? Sounds pretty shit.

jandrese 5y ago

> Crypto is fairly easy to avoid as an individual Web3.0 folks are trying their best to change this.

matt-attack 5y ago

> may sell you out. Even HR departments. Got a new job and am completely spammed constantly at my brand new work email address.

yashasolutions 5y ago

> the only thing I can think of that crypto has "contaminated" is GPU prices. And storage. See Proof of Space and Chia.

ViViDboarder 5y ago

Many free CI services have stopped being a thing because people exploited the free compute for crypto mining. That’s directly impacted a lot of developers at least.