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They predicted mandates, year long restriction, lies about vaccine safety and information manipulation and were actually proved correct on many issues. PhD belo

They predicted mandates, year long restriction, lies about vaccine safety and information manipulation and were actually proved correct on many issues. PhD belong to the most skeptical group of people as do the most stupid ones. People have predicted that vaccinated people will die in droves. They did not. One the other hand it was also predicted that the unvaccinated do the same. They did not either. Countries without access to vaccination did relatively fine. We will have this discussion again in next autumn. I am just against vaccines mandates, good control groups (not optional in any scientific endeavour based on statistics) are necessary and I am for the freedom to choose. I am not responsible for the perceived safety of others. I am an anti-vaxxer now, I identify with this position and even support people that plainly deny the existence of the virus. Anti-vaxxer were not a problem, but some people made them one. Shame on them.

pupppet 5y ago
It’s ever so convenient to be against the mandates until you need to go to the hospital, and then whoops sorry it’s full of people who got their medical advice from the internet. And to be clear, 100% of those who refuse the vaccine and get a bad case, immediately and ever so conveniently start trusting doctors again, tuck their tails between their legs and run to the nearest hospital.
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  Even the average flu season every year before Covid put hospitals in peril because they were streamlined to always run at 100% workload. So every disruption has this consequence.
- native_samples 5y ago
  Yeah or it's full because of people being treated for side effects, but the authorities don't want anyone to know about that, so they don't collect data on it or they collect fraudulent data. See how in Germany the head of an insurance firm wrote an open letter saying his countries stats on vaccine injuries were wildly out of line with claims with vaccine injury billing codes. For pointing this out, his company fired him. Anyone making claims about hospital load change due to vaccines cannot be reliable, for this reason. The data just isn't there and sadly it's deliberate.
albertopv 5y ago
In Veneto, Italy, last months 8 out of 10 people in ICU were unvaccinated, or not completely vaccinated, there's plenty of news and studies about it, no question about it. Considering 80% of people is vaccinated, that's a lot. Anti-vaxxer have been a problem, a big one.

pupppet 5y ago

It’s ever so convenient to be against the mandates until you need to go to the hospital, and then whoops sorry it’s full of people who got their medical advice from the internet. And to be clear, 100% of those who refuse the vaccine and get a bad case, immediately and ever so conveniently start trusting doctors again, tuck their tails between their legs and run to the nearest hospital.

raxxorrax 5y ago
Even the average flu season every year before Covid put hospitals in peril because they were streamlined to always run at 100% workload. So every disruption has this consequence.
native_samples 5y ago
Yeah or it's full because of people being treated for side effects, but the authorities don't want anyone to know about that, so they don't collect data on it or they collect fraudulent data. See how in Germany the head of an insurance firm wrote an open letter saying his countries stats on vaccine injuries were wildly out of line with claims with vaccine injury billing codes. For pointing this out, his company fired him. Anyone making claims about hospital load change due to vaccines cannot be reliable, for this reason. The data just isn't there and sadly it's deliberate.

albertopv 5y ago

In Veneto, Italy, last months 8 out of 10 people in ICU were unvaccinated, or not completely vaccinated, there's plenty of news and studies about it, no question about it. Considering 80% of people is vaccinated, that's a lot. Anti-vaxxer have been a problem, a big one.