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Er, no. Javelin is guided. They are videos of them doing some really amazing long-range shots.

by Tuna-Fish 5y ago

tome 5y ago
For example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sah9nbGQLFY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sah9nbGQLFY
- tablespoon 5y ago
  > For example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sah9nbGQLFY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sah9nbGQLFY I guess you posted that for the compiled footage, but Lord do I hate voice synthesized narration. From my armchair, it seems totally practical to hit-and-run attack the convoy on foot using fire-and-forget Javelins from 1.5-2 miles away. If the terrain is impassible to vehicles, the attacker can just shoot from the top of a hill and run away down the other side (maybe without even being seen).
  - tome 5y ago
    That's interesting. I didn't even notice that! I suppose I found the footage sufficiently compelling to distract me.
    - cutemonster 5y ago
      Might the javelin fail to hit the tank, by accidentally homing in on one of the trucks next to it instead? From what I've read, they have too few javelins already
      - Tuna-Fish 5y ago
        You lock the missile on a target while aiming it. The seeker will remain locked to exactly that target until it hits. Only way it's hitting a neighbouring truck instead is if that's what you aimed at when you pressed fire.
        cutemonster 5y ago
        Ok. I suppose this works also if the tank moves -- but if it gets out of sight, let's say a truck drives in front of the tank, then might the javelin miss? Or is the javelin so high up in the air, so it could typically see the tank anyway?
        Tuna-Fish 5y ago
        Yes, in principle, obstructions could make it miss. But also yes, Javelins fly lofted arc trajectories, unless you take the shot a half a second before the target is obstructed, the missile will almost certainly be able to maintain lock even if something obstructs your view of the target.
  - ModernMech 5y ago
    Also, it strikes me that there are only 1000 tanks in the force. It seems like such a small number contrasted against 100,000 soldiers. That seems like a tractable number of tanks to destroy.
    - lupire 5y ago
      Tabks are hard to use unless the terrain is ideal. Maybe great for driving across dry countryside and lifht rubble and mowing down infantry, but not for occupying a city you don't want to flatten.
    - jacquesm 5y ago
      54 down, still a ways to go: https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-docum... Note that that is a lower bound.
    - raxxorrax 5y ago
      1000 tanks are quite a lot. I think future wars will feature less of them aside from power projection. But for occupations they are pretty vulnerable targets despite their armor.

Er, no. Javelin is guided. They are videos of them doing some really amazing long-range shots.

tome 5y ago

For example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sah9nbGQLFY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sah9nbGQLFY

tablespoon 5y ago
> For example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sah9nbGQLFY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sah9nbGQLFY I guess you posted that for the compiled footage, but Lord do I hate voice synthesized narration. From my armchair, it seems totally practical to hit-and-run attack the convoy on foot using fire-and-forget Javelins from 1.5-2 miles away. If the terrain is impassible to vehicles, the attacker can just shoot from the top of a hill and run away down the other side (maybe without even being seen).
- tome 5y ago
  That's interesting. I didn't even notice that! I suppose I found the footage sufficiently compelling to distract me.
  - cutemonster 5y ago
    Might the javelin fail to hit the tank, by accidentally homing in on one of the trucks next to it instead? From what I've read, they have too few javelins already
    - Tuna-Fish 5y ago
      You lock the missile on a target while aiming it. The seeker will remain locked to exactly that target until it hits. Only way it's hitting a neighbouring truck instead is if that's what you aimed at when you pressed fire.
      - cutemonster 5y ago
        Ok. I suppose this works also if the tank moves -- but if it gets out of sight, let's say a truck drives in front of the tank, then might the javelin miss? Or is the javelin so high up in the air, so it could typically see the tank anyway?
        Tuna-Fish 5y ago
        Yes, in principle, obstructions could make it miss. But also yes, Javelins fly lofted arc trajectories, unless you take the shot a half a second before the target is obstructed, the missile will almost certainly be able to maintain lock even if something obstructs your view of the target.
- ModernMech 5y ago
  Also, it strikes me that there are only 1000 tanks in the force. It seems like such a small number contrasted against 100,000 soldiers. That seems like a tractable number of tanks to destroy.
  - lupire 5y ago
    Tabks are hard to use unless the terrain is ideal. Maybe great for driving across dry countryside and lifht rubble and mowing down infantry, but not for occupying a city you don't want to flatten.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    54 down, still a ways to go: https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-docum... Note that that is a lower bound.
  - raxxorrax 5y ago
    1000 tanks are quite a lot. I think future wars will feature less of them aside from power projection. But for occupations they are pretty vulnerable targets despite their armor.