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It depends what you mean by breaking changes, right? Do you mean they try to avoid breaking ABI in a forwards compatible way? That is, building against new glib

It depends what you mean by breaking changes, right? Do you mean they try to avoid breaking ABI in a forwards compatible way? That is, building against new glibc then runing against old glibc should work? I don't think so: they only make it ABI backwards compatible (compile against old glibc, run against new) and API compatible (recompile your source against different versions should work). I just checked by glibc and it had > 200 symbols versioned 2.34 which is the current glibc version. If you use any of those you can't run against older glibc.

marcosdumay 5y ago
> Do you mean they try to avoid breaking ABI in a forwards compatible way? Ok, I can see what I have written that could read this way, but the context is completely about backward compatibility. Forward compatibility isn't a concept that appears often in software.
- BeeOnRope 5y ago
  It's not about how you wrote it, it's that the "single executable" concept needs both directions of compatibility if you dynamically link libc on any old distro. E.g., you might use a relatively recent distro in your GitHub action (or whatever) to build this binary, but then anyone running CentOS or whatever can't run it because they ship an older libc version and required symbols aren't available.
  - marcosdumay 5y ago
    If libc is backwards compatible, you immediately have a compatibility matrix that says where your code will run. Quite like you have for any kind of release on any environment. You seem to want some way to have your code run on any platform whatever features you use in it. That you can't have. Of course if you want to support CentOS 6, you have to avoid any new symbol.
    - BeeOnRope 5y ago
      The problem isn't new symbols, it's that existing symbols can get the new version depending on what version you compile it against. On my glibc ~200 symbols have the newest version (2.34) but these are largely all methods that have been around forever. A binary built here won't run in most places.

marcosdumay 5y ago

> Do you mean they try to avoid breaking ABI in a forwards compatible way? Ok, I can see what I have written that could read this way, but the context is completely about backward compatibility. Forward compatibility isn't a concept that appears often in software.

BeeOnRope 5y ago
It's not about how you wrote it, it's that the "single executable" concept needs both directions of compatibility if you dynamically link libc on any old distro. E.g., you might use a relatively recent distro in your GitHub action (or whatever) to build this binary, but then anyone running CentOS or whatever can't run it because they ship an older libc version and required symbols aren't available.
- marcosdumay 5y ago
  If libc is backwards compatible, you immediately have a compatibility matrix that says where your code will run. Quite like you have for any kind of release on any environment. You seem to want some way to have your code run on any platform whatever features you use in it. That you can't have. Of course if you want to support CentOS 6, you have to avoid any new symbol.
  - BeeOnRope 5y ago
    The problem isn't new symbols, it's that existing symbols can get the new version depending on what version you compile it against. On my glibc ~200 symbols have the newest version (2.34) but these are largely all methods that have been around forever. A binary built here won't run in most places.