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No. Its an everyone loses everything situation. Even narcistic authoritarians realize that. And in the event I am wrong, then so what, I'll be dead.

croes 5y ago
A reasonable human being would renounce counterattack to prevent mankind's annihilation. So the first one would be the winner.
- forty 5y ago
  Not counter attacking would be an agreement that the attacker can settle to their benefit any conflict by sending a nuke, without equal consequences for them, and so encourage them to sending more nuke. The only use of nuclear nuke is to replicate if someone else use theirs (or rather to let them know you would, so they don't). If you don't replicate, you might as well dismantle all your nukes after that. Unfortunately, there is no other way, if someone use a nuke, we must all die. I think Poutine and the others are well aware of that. Well I certainly hope so.
  - unfocussed_mike 5y ago
    > I think Poutine and the others are well aware of that. (emphasis mine) Oh man, you've gone and declared war on Canada now.
    - forty 5y ago
      Haha well, in case you didn't know, it turns out it's also what the madman who is attacking Ukraine now is named in French - and I assume in French Canadian too ? So I hope our friend from Quebec will not mind too much ^^
  - croes 5y ago
    >Unfortunately, there is no other way, if someone use a nuke, we must all die. That's obviously wrong. You don't want to choose that way but it exists. And it's the only reasonable way if you don't want to kill all mankind.
- Eddy_Viscosity2 5y ago
  Reasonable people can be hard to come by when the world is ending. I imagine that even the most ordinarily level headed person might become a bit emotional when nukes starting dropping on their country. Also 'winner' might not be the best choice of words for this situation.
tspike 5y ago
In all likelihood, you won't be dead. You'll be faced with a stark, deeply unpleasant new reality and your survival instincts will kick in. You will look back on this fatalism as sad naivety.
- shrimp_emoji 5y ago
  https://youtu.be/nPM-QSCnNas https://youtu.be/nPM-QSCnNas
dzhiurgis 5y ago
Putin is dead already, it's just a matter of time.
- Eddy_Viscosity2 5y ago
  We are all, given enough time.
- senectus1 5y ago
  Assuming that happens, who replaces him? Does someone pop down the local gulag and release Navalny? Or is there a cronie that potentially worse than Putin in the shadows?
  - dzhiurgis 5y ago
    Lenin - 200k executions, 5 million deaths due to famines Stalin - 800k executions, 1.7 million deaths in the Gulag, plus some famine and some miscellaneous brings to around 5million, some estimates upwards 20 million. Everything after that sounds like a breeze.
    - senectus1 5y ago
      Jesús. right. be less flippant, me.

croes 5y ago

A reasonable human being would renounce counterattack to prevent mankind's annihilation. So the first one would be the winner.

forty 5y ago
Not counter attacking would be an agreement that the attacker can settle to their benefit any conflict by sending a nuke, without equal consequences for them, and so encourage them to sending more nuke. The only use of nuclear nuke is to replicate if someone else use theirs (or rather to let them know you would, so they don't). If you don't replicate, you might as well dismantle all your nukes after that. Unfortunately, there is no other way, if someone use a nuke, we must all die. I think Poutine and the others are well aware of that. Well I certainly hope so.
- unfocussed_mike 5y ago
  > I think Poutine and the others are well aware of that. (emphasis mine) Oh man, you've gone and declared war on Canada now.
  - forty 5y ago
    Haha well, in case you didn't know, it turns out it's also what the madman who is attacking Ukraine now is named in French - and I assume in French Canadian too ? So I hope our friend from Quebec will not mind too much ^^
- croes 5y ago
  >Unfortunately, there is no other way, if someone use a nuke, we must all die. That's obviously wrong. You don't want to choose that way but it exists. And it's the only reasonable way if you don't want to kill all mankind.
Eddy_Viscosity2 5y ago
Reasonable people can be hard to come by when the world is ending. I imagine that even the most ordinarily level headed person might become a bit emotional when nukes starting dropping on their country. Also 'winner' might not be the best choice of words for this situation.

tspike 5y ago

In all likelihood, you won't be dead. You'll be faced with a stark, deeply unpleasant new reality and your survival instincts will kick in. You will look back on this fatalism as sad naivety.

shrimp_emoji 5y ago
https://youtu.be/nPM-QSCnNas https://youtu.be/nPM-QSCnNas

dzhiurgis 5y ago

Putin is dead already, it's just a matter of time.

Eddy_Viscosity2 5y ago
We are all, given enough time.
senectus1 5y ago
Assuming that happens, who replaces him? Does someone pop down the local gulag and release Navalny? Or is there a cronie that potentially worse than Putin in the shadows?
- dzhiurgis 5y ago
  Lenin - 200k executions, 5 million deaths due to famines Stalin - 800k executions, 1.7 million deaths in the Gulag, plus some famine and some miscellaneous brings to around 5million, some estimates upwards 20 million. Everything after that sounds like a breeze.
  - senectus1 5y ago
    Jesús. right. be less flippant, me.