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This is why we can do things to make up for the fact that society has failed these children. If you make it so that only “merit” is considered - you’re only go

This is why we can do things to make up for the fact that society has failed these children. If you make it so that only “merit” is considered - you’re only gonna get rich kids. (And I see this already through SV - it’s nothing but rich or well educated parents for the children here) What is the argument against letting children who have had a rough lot in their life get a slight lessening of their handicap when applying for colleges or other life changing scenarios that could pull them out of their rut for future generations? If you don’t and are unwilling to address the root cause (and we aren’t willing to address that in the US - we don’t even have universal healthcare yet guys) then you’re gonna keep having this shit continue.

notSupplied 5y ago
The merit-based school such as Styuvesant in NYC and Lowell in SF are both filled with rather poor Asian kids. The demographic profile of these two schools are substantially lower income than the very expensive cities they reside in. Edit: Got the names of the schools wrong.
- bradlys 5y ago
  You know that isn't an argument against what I said, right? Like, at all. It completely supports what I said.
  - fallingknife 5y ago
    You said: > If you make it so that only “merit” is considered - you’re only gonna get rich kids. He said: > The merit-based school such as Styuvesant in NYC and Lowell in SF are both filled with rather poor Asian kids. > The demographic profile of these two schools are substantially lower income than the very expensive cities they reside in. It couldn't possibly be further from supporting what you said.
    - bradlys 5y ago
      Since people here are often ESL. I'll put it this way: "English is a rich language." Please try to think about how the context of what I said could be interpreted. If you take literally everything at face value - you're truly not thinking critically about anything.
      - shard 5y ago
        Not sure why you keep arguing against yourself. Many immigrant Asian families have households which are not English-fluent.
  - lelanthran 5y ago
    > You know that isn't an argument against what I said, right? Like, at all. It completely supports what I said. It's literally the opposite of what you said, unless you suddenly changed your mind and agree that the merit-based schools are the best option for poor kids.
raxxorrax 5y ago
Agreed that there is a need of support system. Disagreed on making the denominator racial, religious or cultural. That is particularly evading the root causes in my opinion.

notSupplied 5y ago

The merit-based school such as Styuvesant in NYC and Lowell in SF are both filled with rather poor Asian kids. The demographic profile of these two schools are substantially lower income than the very expensive cities they reside in. Edit: Got the names of the schools wrong.

bradlys 5y ago
You know that isn't an argument against what I said, right? Like, at all. It completely supports what I said.
- fallingknife 5y ago
  You said: > If you make it so that only “merit” is considered - you’re only gonna get rich kids. He said: > The merit-based school such as Styuvesant in NYC and Lowell in SF are both filled with rather poor Asian kids. > The demographic profile of these two schools are substantially lower income than the very expensive cities they reside in. It couldn't possibly be further from supporting what you said.
  - bradlys 5y ago
    Since people here are often ESL. I'll put it this way: "English is a rich language." Please try to think about how the context of what I said could be interpreted. If you take literally everything at face value - you're truly not thinking critically about anything.
    - shard 5y ago
      Not sure why you keep arguing against yourself. Many immigrant Asian families have households which are not English-fluent.
- lelanthran 5y ago
  > You know that isn't an argument against what I said, right? Like, at all. It completely supports what I said. It's literally the opposite of what you said, unless you suddenly changed your mind and agree that the merit-based schools are the best option for poor kids.

raxxorrax 5y ago

Agreed that there is a need of support system. Disagreed on making the denominator racial, religious or cultural. That is particularly evading the root causes in my opinion.