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It's not their propaganda operation, it's ours.
by yossarian1408 5y ago
It's not their propaganda operation, it's ours.
- emteycz 5y agoYou're flattering yourself too much. Ukrainians had the last 8 years to train and practice. They're one of the best now. Others will be coming to ask them for help, not the other way around.
- matwood 5y agoIt's a combination. The US releasing intelligence early on as it came out cut the knees out of the Russian disinformation campaign. So much so, I suspect it may become the new doctrine. Ukraine, and Zelensky in particular, have also taken full advantage of social media.
- pjc50 5y agohttps://en.interfax.com.ua/about.html https://en.interfax.com.ua/about.html looks pretty Ukranian to me?
- TMWNN 5y agoyossarian1408 means that CIA/MI6 are almost certainly running Ukraine's PR.
- fmajid 5y agoYour misplaced faith in the competence of the CIA is almost adorable. Small countries like Israel or Ukraine actually have to have competent intelligence services because their survival depends on it.
- acdha 5y agoWhich is a pretty bold claim, completely unsupported by evidence. The Ukraine has a ton of highly-proficient very online people, the idea that they need shadowy outside help seems like an attack more than a serious claim.
- dannyw 5y agoCome on, you literally think the Central Intelligence Agency, the poster child for psy-ops, is not doing psy-ops right now??? That's like saying there's no evidence the NSA has saved this exact message in Xkeyscore.
- watwut 5y agoWhich is entirely different claim then "CIA/MI6 are almost certainly running Ukraine's PR".
- drran 5y agoCIA cannot defend USA from Russian propaganda. CIA are noobs in this war. They used our (Ukrainian) help to catch Russians. I know Russians inside out. I have 15+ years of experience in defending of Ukrainian informational space. Who has more years of experience than me? Nobody.
- acdha 5y agoThem doing anything is not the same as them doing everything, as claimed. This shows every sign of being a lot of organic activity and the Ukrainian government – unsurprising as they have entire groups whose job it is to do this and more people who are mother-tongue fluent in Russian. This illustrates the danger of conspiracy theory thinking: you’ve got yourself arguing a more complicated explanation with absolutely no evidence, and if we’re going by institutional reputations as portrayed by Hollywood wouldn’t the same logic have lead you to expect a massive Russian counter-campaign?
- baq 5y agoThey do. But if you believe they don't get help from western intelligence agencies, you're looking the other way.
- acdha 5y agoHelp is not “running”. I’d want some evidence at all for that, especially given how quickly this happened.
- kergonath 5y agoWait, I thought it was the reptilians.
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- jpmoral 5y agoDoesn't seem like it to (untrained) me. Maybe if it were ham-handed and on-the-nose.
- ppg677 5y agoYou vastly overestimate the competence of the CIA.
- dragonwriter 5y ago> yossarian1408 means that CIA/MI6 are almost certainly running Ukraine's PR. Ukraine's PR is much better than CIA/MI6’s own PR. OTOH, I bet they and other Western intelligence service are feeding Ukraine Intel that is instrumental in both the material (compared to expectations) and PR success that Ukraine is having.