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Mojang to Require a Microsoft Account to Play Minecraft

121 points by i13e 5y ago

raxxorrax 5y ago
Minecraft was a better game under the original developer. Just recently saw that I can buy Minecraft coins at a tank stop. A really sad development of an awesome game which had an insurmountable amount of free content. Don't know what I expected with the acquisition though. I don't think I will migrate my account, currently in the process of migrating away from Windows for good.
- lkxijlewlf 5y ago
  > Don't know what I expected with the acquisition though. A business buys a product for 2.5Bn, there's going to want to make 10Bn in return.
- i13e 5y ago
  Honestly I'm in the same boat, I bought a copy of MC 10 years ago and love the game. Watching it grow just as a game and in the speedrunning community, SMPs, builds, Let's Plays, etc has been staggering. But now I'm left questioning what this move means and if the game is taking a different turn from the creative freedom that made it successful in the first place.
  - raxxorrax 5y ago
    To be honest I haven't played it in ages, but there was a time when I enjoyed it with some friends on our self hosted server. It is still successful and it is probably a completely transformed game by now, but ultimately I think they want to lure people into their environment. I also wouldn't want my kids playing it because of the monetization.
    - depaya 5y ago
      The version you like is still available... you can play the game and run a server in any version you want. Java has no monetization.
      - Shared404 5y ago
        But is still being pulled into Microsoft accounts. Enough is enough, I'm done with this. The only game that I'm willing to play with a Microsoft account is the MCC - and that's because I bought it knowing I would need an account, then made a throwaway email and MS account to play it with.
- c7DJTLrn 5y ago
  Ever since Microsoft took the lead they've kept adding and adding. New blocks, items, mechanics. Minecraft was supposed to be about simplicity. MS has pushed their own agenda for the game and torched everything it used to be. They reworked graphics just because they didn't like them.
  - cferr 5y ago
    "Minecraft was supposed to be about simplicity." Minecraft was supposed to be a toy project Notch wanted to mess around with. Simplicity has never been a target, since every major release, including during the in/infdev days has had major changes.
  - EdwardDiego 5y ago
    > Minecraft was supposed to be about simplicity. ...redstone circuits aren't exactly the definition of simplicity. My kids seem to love all the new mechanics and items, and spend hours building things or fighting Orcs in a LOTR mod together, so I'm getting a lot of value from three MC licences.
  - lowq 5y ago
    I will always be nostalgic for 2011 Minecraft. Sandstone was cool, dogs were cool, pistons were cool, villagers not so much, IMHO. Less was more, man.
- Hasnep 5y ago
  To clarify, the original Java version of Minecraft is essentially the same game with more gameplay features, the Bedrock version is the one with the microtransactions. Plus, the Java launcher lets you use any version going back more than a decade, so if you're not happy with the new features you can just pretend they never happened like some parts of the modded community do with versions after 1.7.10.
  - whimsicalism 5y ago
    Wait so literally EEE. I thought MS was done with that.
  - dmonitor 5y ago
    Until you get rootkitted from Log4J
    - tech234a 5y ago
      It looks like they brought the security fixes to all versions via the launcher. https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/4416199399693-Security-Vulnerability-in-Minecraft-Java-Edition https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/4416199399693-S...
- atomicfiredoll 5y ago
  In preparation for the transfer, I've been playing with friends the last few weeks and I don't know that I agree that it was a better game. It feels like there's still not a lot of other games out there quite like it--often imitated, never duplicated. That said, I do agree that I likely won't be migrating my account. It's a good excuse to go through another cycle of addiction with the game.
i13e 5y ago
Key Takeaway: > Now just to be clear, migrating from Mojang to Microsoft accounts is mandatory. If you don’t make the move, in several months you won’t be able to log in anymore – which means you won’t be able to play either. Link to their announcement video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9cqIwrgz7w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9cqIwrgz7w
goblin89 5y ago
With the in-game currency and mandatory Microsoft accounts, unfortunately one can see self-hosted Minecraft Java server development halted as well in foreseeable future. I would not be totally surprised if they have been strategically placing bugs (to ruin the experience for those who bought the game but don’t want to be locked in) already.
- i13e 5y ago
  When you look at some of Microsoft's actions they can seem really solid (for example doing away with Bethesda's launcher, keeping many Bethesda/Mojang/Activison games multi-platform), but if 5 years from now a Microsoft account is required to play Bethesda games and they develop a Microsoft Launcher... No thanks.
  - ssully 5y ago
    They already have a Microsoft Launcher; the Windows Store or the Xbox app (which is basically just a better UI layer on top of the Windows Store).
    - i13e 5y ago
      Yes, I meant more in terms of requiring it in order to play their games (like EA Origin or the Epic Games Launcher). Currently I see Halo Infinite on Steam so it appears that hasn't come to pass
      - nix0n 5y ago
        Halo Infinite on Steam does not currently require any launcher, but other games (GTA V for example) do require launchers even when bought on and launched from Steam. Also, the Xbox app is the only way I know of to do cross-platform voice chat when playing Halo Infinite.
- Shared404 5y ago
  > unfortunately one can see self-hosted Minecraft Java server development halted as well in foreseeable future. As someone who's an idiot and doesn't know what they're talking about, how hard would it be to make Minetest compatible with Minecraft servers? Edit: I recognize you're talking about 1st party Minecraft server development now, there are 3rd party implementations though, correct? Presumably there would need to be modifications to the Minetest engine, but it seems easier than re-implementing Minecraft from scratch - and would be a great screw you to M$.
noja 5y ago
Created a new account, got locked almost immediately. Requires a telephone number to unlock it. Thanks Microsoft! Thanks Mojang!
- tehbeard 5y ago
  Had the same happen. Haven't tried to fix it yet, too scared they'll lock my primary ms account as well, and then I lose Xbox and office...
- dpedu 5y ago
  Hmm. I have like a dozen Minecraft accounts but only one or two phone numbers. I wonder how this is going to play out :/
  - TT-392 5y ago
    I had the same problem, you can verify an account every 24 hours per phone number. Cause.... that somehow helps for security
  - watwut 5y ago
    When I was making accounts for my kids, I used friends phone. Cause my kids did not had own phone. It was ridiculous.
    - brimble 5y ago
      They make it a huge pain to buy the damn game and actually get it working for your kid's account (yes, that's another step or two) if you don't already have accounts. And their account management pages make Teams look well-organized. I was shocked at how hard it was when I did it. I guess they don't want anyone buying the Java version anymore (I assume the other kind is easier to buy?)
makach 5y ago
I have 5 java MC accounts, OMG the amount of work I need to do to migrate them. Microsoft your authentication regime sucks. It is a total pain. Can I get a refund?
- thanatos519 5y ago
  I bought Java Minecraft a couple of years ago, early enough that I was able to redeem a free Bedrock account, after an astounding shitshow of authentication loops. I'm pretty sure I was only able to complete the process this time because I knew what to expect and had my dev tools window open. I can't imagine how mere mortals could be expected to navigate this process.
kbelder 5y ago
I went through their account creation process, was no longer able to start Minecraft. It wanted me to buy a new copy. After contacting MS, they recommended I downgrade to the old version of the launcher, and that worked. I assume upgrading will be forced at some point, and I'll probably lose access again. This transition doesn't seem to be well handled, although I was glad that I was able to actually get hold of a human support rep.
- vkou 5y ago
  You've described the account management experience of Microsoft's forays into gaming in a nutshell. Still the same shit as it has been for the past 15 years. Fortunately, you can console yourself that in two years, they'll abandon this system, and switch to something else that's broken in a different way. It's clear that there's an annual OKR to hit some account creation # or other, but there's no OKR for having those accounts provide any value to the users.
surlyadopter 5y ago
I have an ancient minecraft account (so old I paypal'ed 9 euro to Mojang) that doesn't have an email associated with it. Does anybody have experience with MS helping recover an older MC account?
- vopi 5y ago
  I had to do that A few years ago. (Same thing, early PayPal). I had an old email attached to it I no longer had access too. I was able to email support and give them some information such as purchase date (that was frankly not super specific but was worth a shot. I'm talking very, very vague dates) and they were able to transfer the account to me.
- cdirkx 5y ago
  I'm in a similar situation. From what I could find the easiest way to resolve the issue is to report the original transaction ID [1], if you still have access to it. They list the instructions for PayPal: > The PayPal transaction ID is a seventeen-character alphanumeric code: 1AB23456C7890123D > To locate this transaction ID, log into your PayPal account and find the ID in your transaction history. If you no longer have access to your PayPal account, or if you made a purchase that doesn’t appear in your transaction history, you must contact PayPal to request the ID. [1] https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360029977371-What-is-a-Transaction-ID- https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360029977371-Wh...
  - teraflop 5y ago
    I tried this process twice in the past two years. Despite providing them with the original PayPal receipt and transaction ID, and still having control of the original email address that the receipt was sent to, and even knowing the original UUID of my user account, I was told that they were unable to verify my identity because: > we've had some issues with searching for PayPal transaction IDs lately. We may not be able to use the PayPal transaction ID alone. Sucks to be me, I guess. It would probably make more sense to just pay for a new account than to try arguing with them again, but I'm stubborn enough to stand on principle.
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i13e 5y ago
Since I see many people asking questions about the migration process, here is a link to their FAQ: https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360050865492 https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360050865492
c7DJTLrn 5y ago
Guess I won't be playing Minecraft anymore. At least not in online mode. Pretty gross how they gave a cape to everyone to shut them up. (historically capes were a rare privilege to own)
mjs7231 5y ago
Through terrible process and QA on their end, MS essentially stole a copy of the game back from me with this change. My son got an email saying he needed to migrate our Mojang account to an MS account and he clicked through like the email said. Problem was the Microsoft account he migrated to already had a Minecraft purchase. Now I essentially lost a copy of the game because we technically have two Minecraft accounts with the same email. We can only log into one of them. I contact MS with the best link I could find but it was not actually linking me up to a MS employee, but cycled me through four different "experts", each of which I had to re-explain the issue, and each said they didn't know how to help me before bouncing me to another expert. It was a terrible experience and still unresolved.
- Medox 5y ago
  At least you've cost MS more money through four experts than them giving you the game back directly. So there's that, I guess. Now I wonder if fixing such edge cases would be more expensive for them than making users go through these "experts" again and again...
  - teekert 5y ago
    Yeah it’s a mess, when you’re on Linux you buy Java initially without caring much, then you are in for a surprise and some interesting reads when the kids want to play with friends… I don’t understand why I can’t just have both on the same account, prevent the unpleasant surprises. I mean it’s the same game (from the outside).
    - mlyle 5y ago
      Well, if your kids are slightly older, you have the opposite problem: everyone older than 12-13 tends to want to play on Java. My oldest is right on the cusp where his friend group is split down the middle. It's super dumb.
      - bertjk 5y ago
        Why would they suddenly want to play on Java? Is it the mods?
hereforphone 5y ago
Reports of people being locked out and other troubles. Microsoft soils everything they touch. They have the money to get things right, they just somehow don't. I just don't get it.
- p_j_w 5y ago
  >They have the money to get things right, they just somehow don't. I just don't get it. They have enough money that they don't need to get it right. What are you gonna do, go running to the competition? They can just buy the competition.
josefresco 5y ago
The whole Mojang/Microsoft account migration thing has been a nightmare. I got two kids, and purchased different versions of Minecraft (don't get me started on that fiasco) over the years. I also work in tech, and have Microsoft accounts. Lastly I've dabbled with Xbox Game Pass etc. Determining which account to use and login with is a nightmare. I don't play Minecraft enough to stay current with all the ins-and-outs which means I ultimately don't play as much. Edit: Another commenter reminded me that I also "lost" a license when merging accounts. Or at least I have no idea how to get back into an account that had a purchased license. Oh well, they (MS) lose out in the end as it's 3 less Minecraft gamers with disposable income.
- ct0 5y ago
  Microsoft gaming is a pretty terrible compared to other marketplaces/launchers. I sub to xboxgamepass and have had so many silly issues that im considering canceling. Team/group based games are seriously problematic. I thought multiplayer was a problem that was worked out years ago.
jimbob45 5y ago
Anyone old enough to remember how many times we've been here? Every five or so years, Microsoft re-invents its own idea to force players to make MS accounts to log in to games. Later, when they inevitably drop the initiative, the players are left wondering if their game will be inaccessible when the account service goes offline.
chaps 5y ago
Jeez. Microsoft account management is absolutely trash. They try to do clever things, but they don't really think things through. As an example: while trying to get excel installed on a Windows VM, running on a Linux host, I found that if your user agent shows you're running Linux, their admin panel will show you a completely different set of already-purchased applications available to install. Took somewhere between 5-10 calls to their support before I figured that out on my own.
- TedShiller 5y ago
  I gave up on Microsoft in the 90’s. Couldn’t be happier now outside of their ecosystem.
  - iforgotpassword 5y ago
    When I bought Minecraft I was outside of their ecosystem. Now this crap gets forced down my throat. I guess I'm not doing the migration and just play offline/"cracked"
    - dm319 5y ago
      Same here. There was talk a few years ago about Mojang open sourcing it, but clearly they went with the money. And now Microsoft are adamant to squeeze every bit of money and future custom from us.
  - simion314 5y ago
    Maybe you failed to understand the issue, let me explain it clear: I run Linux, I bought Minecraft from Mojang but now it is owned by Microsoft. Also MS bough a lot of game development studios so many games are now owned by Microsoft.
- whimsicalism 5y ago
  Why would your user agent show you're running linux in a VM?
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waffletower 5y ago
"Now just to be clear, migrating from Mojang to Microsoft accounts is 'mandatory'." Whoever made the poor word choice of "mandatory", rather than "required", ought to leave marketing altogether and instead teach in a middle school.
- adhoc_slime 5y ago
  I don't understand the difference?
  - sodality2 5y ago
    "When something is required, it is necessary to complete an action or achieve a goal. When something is mandatory, it is obligatory, usually because some law or rule imposed it." https://thecontentauthority.com/blog/required-vs-mandatory https://thecontentauthority.com/blog/required-vs-mandatory
    - toast0 5y ago
      As a native speaker, I don't understand the distinction. If you want to achieve the goal of playing Minecraft, it is (or will become) obligatory to use a Microsoft account because Microsoft changed the rules to impose this. Is the nuance maybe that something that is mandatory must be done even if you are not in the process of completing a goal? It's possible that Microsoft will kill the migration process at some point (either intentionally or through neglect), so maybe this must be done if you want to play again without paying again.
      - Karsteski 5y ago
        It's somewhat nuanced. You're missing the human aspect of it. If someone tells you an action is mandatory, it implies that they have some sort of power over you (boss, police, government, etc.). If someone tells you something is required, it has more of an air of "you need to do this to access this product".
  - Karsteski 5y ago
meesterdude 5y ago
well THIS was a total surprise... I've effectively been locked out of minecraft now. Have had nothing but problems with Microsoft accounts.
- extheat 5y ago
  This was announced over a year ago. Plenty of time for people to get ready or migrate voluntarily.
  - simion314 5y ago
    So, if MS wants me to create new accounts daily I should do it? It is not a smooth process and you nothing to gain and many things to lose(time, maybe your account), we do not forget the past with Skype and read the other comments, MS are incapable to do it right. I purchased something it should continue to work even some shit at MS has different plans, they should be forced to unlock the launcher and not brick products.
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gatefun 5y ago
Another Microsoft forcing strategy. I think Microsoft just might be capable enough to ruin this incredible game.
Quequau 5y ago
I bought Minecraft when it was just about to go to beta and I changed over to a Microsoft account a few days ago. I can't say it went smoothly or that I am happy about it. Lately when I have time to game I've been messing around with Veloren instead: https://veloren.net https://veloren.net
- Karsteski 5y ago
  Veloren looks promising. I've played it a bit just trying it out. I know it's supposed to be an open-source community built game, and I hope it continues to remain so, but I am also hoping they get some altruistic funding soon just so that perhaps the main maintainers can turn it into a serious game development project.
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tomc1985 5y ago
Wow, this has to be some of the most weaselly writing I've seen in a long time. I think my business english professor would be proud. Or maybe the markeing prof?
simion314 5y ago
MS screwed up my 2 Skype account migrations. For single player probably a cracked launcher should work but if your kids play multiplayer you might have no choice and maybe create a Minecraft-only MS account and hope MS is not link it behind your back with your other accounts and skype. F.U. MS, you could let us use the stuff we paid without forcing us into your shit again, some business person really wanted to simplify his spreadsheets or get some bonus because he pushed for new MS accoutns to be created then phase 2 link a credit card and phase 3 add dack patherns so kids buy skins?
- iforgotpassword 5y ago
  I've been running a server for 11 years now. It was always in online mode as well, I didn't want to hurt some indie studio and most importantly, it made banning griefers manageable. I've already looked into how I can run the server in "mixed mode" so in addition to still allowing registered players in just as before, I can create a separate login process for arbitrary players that use a modified launcher that doesn't talk to MS servers. Probably gonna involve some trial and error, but then I can just hand out accounts manually to friends who don't want to migrate either. Maybe running an offline Server with custom account management is the best way going forward for people with kids. ;)
Rumudiez 5y ago
Not migrating. I put the servers I’m hosting into offline mode so everyone can play with unauthenticated clients. Using MultiMC instead of the original launcher, but still need to find a reliable way to download the latest clients when we want to update. Minecraft without Microsoft
- Karsteski 5y ago
  Any security concerns with using offline mode? I also host a server but I feel like I'd have more issues with those bots that scrape the internet looking for cracked servers to grief, for example. Would a whitelist even solve such a problem..?
Mikeb85 5y ago
Ugh I recently tried to recover a MS account to use Teams (only begrudgingly), was a nightmare. As for Minecraft, I got an account ages ago (long before Notch sold) and at this point I'll consider it lost and simply play Minetest whenever I feel like Minecraft...
nimbius 5y ago
written by: staff. this should tell you everything you need to know. if i had to pen an ultimatum to a dedicated fanbase that they either join or i steal their copy of a paid game, I would choose staff as my pen name as well.
PeterStuer 5y ago
If you're on Windows, Microsoft is edging (read 'diving headfirst into') towards requiring a Microsoft account just to log in. The kicker is that they are extremely bad at mixed account scenarios, you know like needing a certain account for work and another account for private stuff. Enjoy the entropy!
- whimsicalism 5y ago
  > Microsoft is edging (read 'diving headfirst into') towards requiring a Microsoft account just to log in. Apple is also extremely persistent about asking you for an Apple id. It prompts me for my Apple ID maybe once an hour. Now I'm sure that this is behavior that could be turned off in some setting, but the fact that it is somehow not difficult to get it into this state is evidence enough.
  - smcl 5y ago
    This seems to happen a lot during the first ~5 days or so of buying a new iPhone. You get prompted for Apple ID login every few hours and sometimes repeatedly in quick succession. Maddening.
- chmod775 5y ago
  >The kicker is that they are extremely bad at mixed account scenarios, you know like needing a certain account for work and another account for private stuff. Enjoy the entropy! I never really thought about that Google is surprisingly good at this, despite being more complicated: On some services you can have multiple identities even within the same Google account (like on YouTube). They have a "Switch Account" button and it just lists all of your Google Accounts with all of your identities (YouTube channels) below them. It's really comfortable to work with and I hardly (well, not never) mess this up. The identity icon in the top right that is also repeated in every place where you're submitting something with that identity (like next to the comment box) helps to keep you oriented. Typically I give Google a lot of shit, but they've got this figured out at least.
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canadianwriter 5y ago
In rare good news this actually restored a purchase I thought I had lost! I purchased minecraft back in the alpha days, when the contract said you get it forever including all updates. Over the years I lost that account. Well, when Microsoft sent out this email I discovered I had been using the wrong email address - it was forwarded from an ancient email address I stopped using ages ago. I was able to go sign in (using the forgot password process), link it to my current microsoft account and now have my ancient purchase working again on a modern account! Yah, this is very specific to me, and troubling to require it, but I did get something good out of it.
Wojakmeme 5y ago
Microsoft forced me to add a phone nunber for "security reasons" because of "supspicious login activity". It was the first time I logged into the Microsoft account after I created it one day ago. There was nothing listed in the login activity section.
- tehbeard 5y ago
  I have one phone number and two minecraft accounts... What's the betting using it twice will lock both and fuck me out of office and Xbox?
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  That was exactly my experience after posting an unrelated technical question on some MS forum. Wanted to delete my account immediately because I didn't want to deal with their botnet flagging accounts. Could not delete my account anymore without providing a telephone number. Their dead database entry then... I guess they flagged it because I didn't provide contact information in the first place.
obert 5y ago
At least Microsoft didn’t buy Wordle. Dont need no account or Wordle Service Pack or a TPM there yet Edit: s/tpu/tpm/
- Jon_Lowtek 5y ago
  I think you mean TPM, a TPU is a tensor processing unit - an artificial intelligence coprocessor - developed by google.
  - obert 5y ago
    thanks, late hours here ooops! (fixed)
Karsteski 5y ago
I've owned Minecraft on PC for over 10 years now, but this change really makes me just want to use the cracked version and switch over my Minecraft server to offline mode, just to avoid Microsoft's bullshit. Unfortunately, that would come with too many security risks, as far as my hobby server admin knowledge takes me...
cyral 5y ago
I'm doing this process now and it is a total pain due to how long their emails take to arrive. So far I needed to: - Reset my password - Answer security questions I created as a kid, had no idea to the answers, had to reset them - Finally, need a code to begin the migration Each step requires an email confirmation or code, which takes 5-10 minutes to arrive, and for the last step, the session seems to timeout around 10 minutes. This is pretty frustrating as it has taken 30+ minutes to do, I can't imagine kids will have much patience or even understand what the purpose of this is.
- will4274 5y ago
  Microsoft doesn't use security questions. IIUC then, your complaints are about Mojang's pre-Microsoft system. Then, would you consider this announcement a net positive, as it resolves the issues you described?
  - Jon_Lowtek 5y ago
    > Microsoft doesn't use security questions. You sure about that? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/account-billing/set-up-security-questions-as-your-verification-method-3d74aedd-88a5-4932-a211-9f0bfbab5de8 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/account-billing/set-up-s... Edit: but yeah, the GP is probably talking about the Mojang account
    - will4274 5y ago
      :) technically correct is the best kind of correct. Microsoft allows IT admins to use security questions for their employees in the enterprise world by config if they so choose. Microsoft doesn't use security questions for its consumer users, like Minecraft players.
  - cyral 5y ago
    I'm describing the transition from a Mojang account to MS account, as this thread is about.
brink 5y ago
A quirk that I experienced: My email is d@<my domain>.io, and thanks to Microsoft's weird password policies, I cannot use any passwords with the letter d in them.
anthk 5y ago
Try Minetest with the Dreambuilder mod. If you want a MC clone, get Mineclone 5.
duxup 5y ago
I can't make it work. I login, it demands I answer security questions ... I don't know those. The link to reset security questions demands I LOGIN. I opened a support ticket days ago... nothing. And this all when I KNOW my username and password.
jerkstate 5y ago
I can’t play Flight Simulator anymore because the app launcher is so buggy. I guess I’m done with Minecraft. Hopefully someone will come up with a suitable clone soon enough.
gorwell 5y ago
That post looks like Orwellian satire. Starting with the header image literally telling the viewer what to do. APPLAUSE Two authoritative figures standing on stage, delivering the good message to the crowd. APPLAUSE Followed by a dose of gaslighting; `So if you find yourself feeling like this transition is a hassle (but let’s be honest, it really isn’t...` Written by: Staff
dang 5y ago
Discussed recently: Last call to voluntarily migrate Java accounts - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30278313 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30278313 - Feb 2022 (105 comments)
diogenesjunior 5y ago
from what i can tell, mojang is not requiring anybody to do anything. microsoft, however, is making people migrate from mojang accounts to microsoft accounts.
bitwize 5y ago
Wellp, time to get into MineTest.
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Schinken_ 5y ago
I've said it before and I will say it again. Their account system is a joke. Some time ago someone compromised my account (and I am 99.8% sure it was not because of a weak password). I only noticed because I got an email saying "password got changed, confirm? (etc)". I manually navigated to minecraft.net, reset my password, logged in only to find out my legacy account name got changed. Apparently "Schinken" is offensive, who would've thought. Support was more than unhelpful. I later found out that for every "minecraft.net" account there is also a "mojang.com" account. I never ever used this one and I am very sure the "attacker" got in through that somewhere. This one actually lets you setup 2FA.... Would've been nice. I am actually quite annoyed at the loss of my account, the mandatory microsoft account is the final nail in the coffin for me. Let's hope minetest gets a big boost from this. Maybe I'll contribute too.
stjohnswarts 5y ago
Take a look at and support development of optional products like Veloren, https://veloren.net/ https://veloren.net/
_nickwhite 5y ago
Top 10 Best Selling Video Games of All Time: 10) Red Dead Redemption II (43M) 09) Wii Fit (43.8M) 08) Pokémon Red & Blue (47.5M) 07) Mario Kart 8 (51.8M) 06) Super Mario Bros. (58M) 05) PUBG: Battlegrounds (75M) 04) Wii Sports (82.9M) 03) Tetris (100M) 02) Grand Theft Auto V (160M) 01) Minecraft (238M) My theory on Minecraft is that because it's java-based and ultra portable, most people have bought it lots of different platforms. I know that I have personally bought it on 7 different systems for myself and for my kids over the years.
- EdwardDiego 5y ago
  For me it was that my kids want to play it together, and it runs on old hardware easily. If they wanted to play GTA V together, that's some expensive kit.
opportune 5y ago
When I finally migrated my account on a computer I hadn’t used minecraft on before, I had to log in to my Microsoft account on the MS store to activate the app before I could launch the downloaded installer. If I tried to launch the installer without having done that, I’d get an esoteric error. This whole migration has been janky and unnecessary. Yet another reminder as to Microsoft’s incompetence
xyzzy21 5y ago
Well, never playing I guess.
pinephoneguy 5y ago
I personally have given up playing Minecraft the official way (this coming from someone who paid for the game 10 years ago and has hosted multiple private servers.) First they destroyed the launcher, replacing with some Chrome based garbage that had more dependencies than the game itself and now this. Microsoft just eats things and their brand smells like death.

121 points by i13e 5y ago

Minecraft was a better game under the original developer. Just recently saw that I can buy Minecraft coins at a tank stop. A really sad development of an awesome game which had an insurmountable amount of free content. Don't know what I expected with the acquisition though. I don't think I will migrate my account, currently in the process of migrating away from Windows for good.

lkxijlewlf 5y ago
> Don't know what I expected with the acquisition though. A business buys a product for 2.5Bn, there's going to want to make 10Bn in return.
i13e 5y ago
Honestly I'm in the same boat, I bought a copy of MC 10 years ago and love the game. Watching it grow just as a game and in the speedrunning community, SMPs, builds, Let's Plays, etc has been staggering. But now I'm left questioning what this move means and if the game is taking a different turn from the creative freedom that made it successful in the first place.
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  To be honest I haven't played it in ages, but there was a time when I enjoyed it with some friends on our self hosted server. It is still successful and it is probably a completely transformed game by now, but ultimately I think they want to lure people into their environment. I also wouldn't want my kids playing it because of the monetization.
  - depaya 5y ago
    The version you like is still available... you can play the game and run a server in any version you want. Java has no monetization.
    - Shared404 5y ago
      But is still being pulled into Microsoft accounts. Enough is enough, I'm done with this. The only game that I'm willing to play with a Microsoft account is the MCC - and that's because I bought it knowing I would need an account, then made a throwaway email and MS account to play it with.
c7DJTLrn 5y ago
Ever since Microsoft took the lead they've kept adding and adding. New blocks, items, mechanics. Minecraft was supposed to be about simplicity. MS has pushed their own agenda for the game and torched everything it used to be. They reworked graphics just because they didn't like them.
- cferr 5y ago
  "Minecraft was supposed to be about simplicity." Minecraft was supposed to be a toy project Notch wanted to mess around with. Simplicity has never been a target, since every major release, including during the in/infdev days has had major changes.
- EdwardDiego 5y ago
  > Minecraft was supposed to be about simplicity. ...redstone circuits aren't exactly the definition of simplicity. My kids seem to love all the new mechanics and items, and spend hours building things or fighting Orcs in a LOTR mod together, so I'm getting a lot of value from three MC licences.
- lowq 5y ago
  I will always be nostalgic for 2011 Minecraft. Sandstone was cool, dogs were cool, pistons were cool, villagers not so much, IMHO. Less was more, man.
Hasnep 5y ago
To clarify, the original Java version of Minecraft is essentially the same game with more gameplay features, the Bedrock version is the one with the microtransactions. Plus, the Java launcher lets you use any version going back more than a decade, so if you're not happy with the new features you can just pretend they never happened like some parts of the modded community do with versions after 1.7.10.
- whimsicalism 5y ago
  Wait so literally EEE. I thought MS was done with that.
- dmonitor 5y ago
  Until you get rootkitted from Log4J
  - tech234a 5y ago
    It looks like they brought the security fixes to all versions via the launcher. https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/4416199399693-Security-Vulnerability-in-Minecraft-Java-Edition https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/4416199399693-S...
atomicfiredoll 5y ago
In preparation for the transfer, I've been playing with friends the last few weeks and I don't know that I agree that it was a better game. It feels like there's still not a lot of other games out there quite like it--often imitated, never duplicated. That said, I do agree that I likely won't be migrating my account. It's a good excuse to go through another cycle of addiction with the game.

i13e 5y ago

Key Takeaway: > Now just to be clear, migrating from Mojang to Microsoft accounts is mandatory. If you don’t make the move, in several months you won’t be able to log in anymore – which means you won’t be able to play either. Link to their announcement video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9cqIwrgz7w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9cqIwrgz7w

goblin89 5y ago

With the in-game currency and mandatory Microsoft accounts, unfortunately one can see self-hosted Minecraft Java server development halted as well in foreseeable future. I would not be totally surprised if they have been strategically placing bugs (to ruin the experience for those who bought the game but don’t want to be locked in) already.

i13e 5y ago
When you look at some of Microsoft's actions they can seem really solid (for example doing away with Bethesda's launcher, keeping many Bethesda/Mojang/Activison games multi-platform), but if 5 years from now a Microsoft account is required to play Bethesda games and they develop a Microsoft Launcher... No thanks.
- ssully 5y ago
  They already have a Microsoft Launcher; the Windows Store or the Xbox app (which is basically just a better UI layer on top of the Windows Store).
  - i13e 5y ago
    Yes, I meant more in terms of requiring it in order to play their games (like EA Origin or the Epic Games Launcher). Currently I see Halo Infinite on Steam so it appears that hasn't come to pass
    - nix0n 5y ago
      Halo Infinite on Steam does not currently require any launcher, but other games (GTA V for example) do require launchers even when bought on and launched from Steam. Also, the Xbox app is the only way I know of to do cross-platform voice chat when playing Halo Infinite.
Shared404 5y ago
> unfortunately one can see self-hosted Minecraft Java server development halted as well in foreseeable future. As someone who's an idiot and doesn't know what they're talking about, how hard would it be to make Minetest compatible with Minecraft servers? Edit: I recognize you're talking about 1st party Minecraft server development now, there are 3rd party implementations though, correct? Presumably there would need to be modifications to the Minetest engine, but it seems easier than re-implementing Minecraft from scratch - and would be a great screw you to M$.

noja 5y ago

Created a new account, got locked almost immediately. Requires a telephone number to unlock it. Thanks Microsoft! Thanks Mojang!

tehbeard 5y ago
Had the same happen. Haven't tried to fix it yet, too scared they'll lock my primary ms account as well, and then I lose Xbox and office...
dpedu 5y ago
Hmm. I have like a dozen Minecraft accounts but only one or two phone numbers. I wonder how this is going to play out :/
- TT-392 5y ago
  I had the same problem, you can verify an account every 24 hours per phone number. Cause.... that somehow helps for security
- watwut 5y ago
  When I was making accounts for my kids, I used friends phone. Cause my kids did not had own phone. It was ridiculous.
  - brimble 5y ago
    They make it a huge pain to buy the damn game and actually get it working for your kid's account (yes, that's another step or two) if you don't already have accounts. And their account management pages make Teams look well-organized. I was shocked at how hard it was when I did it. I guess they don't want anyone buying the Java version anymore (I assume the other kind is easier to buy?)

makach 5y ago

I have 5 java MC accounts, OMG the amount of work I need to do to migrate them. Microsoft your authentication regime sucks. It is a total pain. Can I get a refund?

thanatos519 5y ago
I bought Java Minecraft a couple of years ago, early enough that I was able to redeem a free Bedrock account, after an astounding shitshow of authentication loops. I'm pretty sure I was only able to complete the process this time because I knew what to expect and had my dev tools window open. I can't imagine how mere mortals could be expected to navigate this process.

kbelder 5y ago

I went through their account creation process, was no longer able to start Minecraft. It wanted me to buy a new copy. After contacting MS, they recommended I downgrade to the old version of the launcher, and that worked. I assume upgrading will be forced at some point, and I'll probably lose access again. This transition doesn't seem to be well handled, although I was glad that I was able to actually get hold of a human support rep.

vkou 5y ago
You've described the account management experience of Microsoft's forays into gaming in a nutshell. Still the same shit as it has been for the past 15 years. Fortunately, you can console yourself that in two years, they'll abandon this system, and switch to something else that's broken in a different way. It's clear that there's an annual OKR to hit some account creation # or other, but there's no OKR for having those accounts provide any value to the users.

surlyadopter 5y ago

I have an ancient minecraft account (so old I paypal'ed 9 euro to Mojang) that doesn't have an email associated with it. Does anybody have experience with MS helping recover an older MC account?

vopi 5y ago
I had to do that A few years ago. (Same thing, early PayPal). I had an old email attached to it I no longer had access too. I was able to email support and give them some information such as purchase date (that was frankly not super specific but was worth a shot. I'm talking very, very vague dates) and they were able to transfer the account to me.
cdirkx 5y ago
I'm in a similar situation. From what I could find the easiest way to resolve the issue is to report the original transaction ID [1], if you still have access to it. They list the instructions for PayPal: > The PayPal transaction ID is a seventeen-character alphanumeric code: 1AB23456C7890123D > To locate this transaction ID, log into your PayPal account and find the ID in your transaction history. If you no longer have access to your PayPal account, or if you made a purchase that doesn’t appear in your transaction history, you must contact PayPal to request the ID. [1] https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360029977371-What-is-a-Transaction-ID- https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360029977371-Wh...
- teraflop 5y ago
  I tried this process twice in the past two years. Despite providing them with the original PayPal receipt and transaction ID, and still having control of the original email address that the receipt was sent to, and even knowing the original UUID of my user account, I was told that they were unable to verify my identity because: > we've had some issues with searching for PayPal transaction IDs lately. We may not be able to use the PayPal transaction ID alone. Sucks to be me, I guess. It would probably make more sense to just pay for a new account than to try arguing with them again, but I'm stubborn enough to stand on principle.
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i13e 5y ago

Since I see many people asking questions about the migration process, here is a link to their FAQ: https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360050865492 https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360050865492

c7DJTLrn 5y ago

Guess I won't be playing Minecraft anymore. At least not in online mode. Pretty gross how they gave a cape to everyone to shut them up. (historically capes were a rare privilege to own)

mjs7231 5y ago

Through terrible process and QA on their end, MS essentially stole a copy of the game back from me with this change. My son got an email saying he needed to migrate our Mojang account to an MS account and he clicked through like the email said. Problem was the Microsoft account he migrated to already had a Minecraft purchase. Now I essentially lost a copy of the game because we technically have two Minecraft accounts with the same email. We can only log into one of them. I contact MS with the best link I could find but it was not actually linking me up to a MS employee, but cycled me through four different "experts", each of which I had to re-explain the issue, and each said they didn't know how to help me before bouncing me to another expert. It was a terrible experience and still unresolved.

Medox 5y ago
At least you've cost MS more money through four experts than them giving you the game back directly. So there's that, I guess. Now I wonder if fixing such edge cases would be more expensive for them than making users go through these "experts" again and again...
- teekert 5y ago
  Yeah it’s a mess, when you’re on Linux you buy Java initially without caring much, then you are in for a surprise and some interesting reads when the kids want to play with friends… I don’t understand why I can’t just have both on the same account, prevent the unpleasant surprises. I mean it’s the same game (from the outside).
  - mlyle 5y ago
    Well, if your kids are slightly older, you have the opposite problem: everyone older than 12-13 tends to want to play on Java. My oldest is right on the cusp where his friend group is split down the middle. It's super dumb.
    - bertjk 5y ago
      Why would they suddenly want to play on Java? Is it the mods?

hereforphone 5y ago

Reports of people being locked out and other troubles. Microsoft soils everything they touch. They have the money to get things right, they just somehow don't. I just don't get it.

p_j_w 5y ago
>They have the money to get things right, they just somehow don't. I just don't get it. They have enough money that they don't need to get it right. What are you gonna do, go running to the competition? They can just buy the competition.

josefresco 5y ago

The whole Mojang/Microsoft account migration thing has been a nightmare. I got two kids, and purchased different versions of Minecraft (don't get me started on that fiasco) over the years. I also work in tech, and have Microsoft accounts. Lastly I've dabbled with Xbox Game Pass etc. Determining which account to use and login with is a nightmare. I don't play Minecraft enough to stay current with all the ins-and-outs which means I ultimately don't play as much. Edit: Another commenter reminded me that I also "lost" a license when merging accounts. Or at least I have no idea how to get back into an account that had a purchased license. Oh well, they (MS) lose out in the end as it's 3 less Minecraft gamers with disposable income.

ct0 5y ago
Microsoft gaming is a pretty terrible compared to other marketplaces/launchers. I sub to xboxgamepass and have had so many silly issues that im considering canceling. Team/group based games are seriously problematic. I thought multiplayer was a problem that was worked out years ago.

jimbob45 5y ago

Anyone old enough to remember how many times we've been here? Every five or so years, Microsoft re-invents its own idea to force players to make MS accounts to log in to games. Later, when they inevitably drop the initiative, the players are left wondering if their game will be inaccessible when the account service goes offline.

chaps 5y ago

Jeez. Microsoft account management is absolutely trash. They try to do clever things, but they don't really think things through. As an example: while trying to get excel installed on a Windows VM, running on a Linux host, I found that if your user agent shows you're running Linux, their admin panel will show you a completely different set of already-purchased applications available to install. Took somewhere between 5-10 calls to their support before I figured that out on my own.

TedShiller 5y ago
I gave up on Microsoft in the 90’s. Couldn’t be happier now outside of their ecosystem.
- iforgotpassword 5y ago
  When I bought Minecraft I was outside of their ecosystem. Now this crap gets forced down my throat. I guess I'm not doing the migration and just play offline/"cracked"
  - dm319 5y ago
    Same here. There was talk a few years ago about Mojang open sourcing it, but clearly they went with the money. And now Microsoft are adamant to squeeze every bit of money and future custom from us.
- simion314 5y ago
  Maybe you failed to understand the issue, let me explain it clear: I run Linux, I bought Minecraft from Mojang but now it is owned by Microsoft. Also MS bough a lot of game development studios so many games are now owned by Microsoft.
whimsicalism 5y ago
Why would your user agent show you're running linux in a VM?
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waffletower 5y ago

"Now just to be clear, migrating from Mojang to Microsoft accounts is 'mandatory'." Whoever made the poor word choice of "mandatory", rather than "required", ought to leave marketing altogether and instead teach in a middle school.

adhoc_slime 5y ago
I don't understand the difference?
- sodality2 5y ago
  "When something is required, it is necessary to complete an action or achieve a goal. When something is mandatory, it is obligatory, usually because some law or rule imposed it." https://thecontentauthority.com/blog/required-vs-mandatory https://thecontentauthority.com/blog/required-vs-mandatory
  - toast0 5y ago
    As a native speaker, I don't understand the distinction. If you want to achieve the goal of playing Minecraft, it is (or will become) obligatory to use a Microsoft account because Microsoft changed the rules to impose this. Is the nuance maybe that something that is mandatory must be done even if you are not in the process of completing a goal? It's possible that Microsoft will kill the migration process at some point (either intentionally or through neglect), so maybe this must be done if you want to play again without paying again.
    - Karsteski 5y ago
      It's somewhat nuanced. You're missing the human aspect of it. If someone tells you an action is mandatory, it implies that they have some sort of power over you (boss, police, government, etc.). If someone tells you something is required, it has more of an air of "you need to do this to access this product".
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meesterdude 5y ago

well THIS was a total surprise... I've effectively been locked out of minecraft now. Have had nothing but problems with Microsoft accounts.

extheat 5y ago
This was announced over a year ago. Plenty of time for people to get ready or migrate voluntarily.
- simion314 5y ago
  So, if MS wants me to create new accounts daily I should do it? It is not a smooth process and you nothing to gain and many things to lose(time, maybe your account), we do not forget the past with Skype and read the other comments, MS are incapable to do it right. I purchased something it should continue to work even some shit at MS has different plans, they should be forced to unlock the launcher and not brick products.
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gatefun 5y ago

Another Microsoft forcing strategy. I think Microsoft just might be capable enough to ruin this incredible game.

Quequau 5y ago

I bought Minecraft when it was just about to go to beta and I changed over to a Microsoft account a few days ago. I can't say it went smoothly or that I am happy about it. Lately when I have time to game I've been messing around with Veloren instead: https://veloren.net https://veloren.net

Karsteski 5y ago
Veloren looks promising. I've played it a bit just trying it out. I know it's supposed to be an open-source community built game, and I hope it continues to remain so, but I am also hoping they get some altruistic funding soon just so that perhaps the main maintainers can turn it into a serious game development project.

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tomc1985 5y ago

Wow, this has to be some of the most weaselly writing I've seen in a long time. I think my business english professor would be proud. Or maybe the markeing prof?

simion314 5y ago

MS screwed up my 2 Skype account migrations. For single player probably a cracked launcher should work but if your kids play multiplayer you might have no choice and maybe create a Minecraft-only MS account and hope MS is not link it behind your back with your other accounts and skype. F.U. MS, you could let us use the stuff we paid without forcing us into your shit again, some business person really wanted to simplify his spreadsheets or get some bonus because he pushed for new MS accoutns to be created then phase 2 link a credit card and phase 3 add dack patherns so kids buy skins?

iforgotpassword 5y ago
I've been running a server for 11 years now. It was always in online mode as well, I didn't want to hurt some indie studio and most importantly, it made banning griefers manageable. I've already looked into how I can run the server in "mixed mode" so in addition to still allowing registered players in just as before, I can create a separate login process for arbitrary players that use a modified launcher that doesn't talk to MS servers. Probably gonna involve some trial and error, but then I can just hand out accounts manually to friends who don't want to migrate either. Maybe running an offline Server with custom account management is the best way going forward for people with kids. ;)

Rumudiez 5y ago

Not migrating. I put the servers I’m hosting into offline mode so everyone can play with unauthenticated clients. Using MultiMC instead of the original launcher, but still need to find a reliable way to download the latest clients when we want to update. Minecraft without Microsoft

Karsteski 5y ago
Any security concerns with using offline mode? I also host a server but I feel like I'd have more issues with those bots that scrape the internet looking for cracked servers to grief, for example. Would a whitelist even solve such a problem..?

Mikeb85 5y ago

Ugh I recently tried to recover a MS account to use Teams (only begrudgingly), was a nightmare. As for Minecraft, I got an account ages ago (long before Notch sold) and at this point I'll consider it lost and simply play Minetest whenever I feel like Minecraft...

nimbius 5y ago

written by: staff. this should tell you everything you need to know. if i had to pen an ultimatum to a dedicated fanbase that they either join or i steal their copy of a paid game, I would choose staff as my pen name as well.

PeterStuer 5y ago

If you're on Windows, Microsoft is edging (read 'diving headfirst into') towards requiring a Microsoft account just to log in. The kicker is that they are extremely bad at mixed account scenarios, you know like needing a certain account for work and another account for private stuff. Enjoy the entropy!

whimsicalism 5y ago
> Microsoft is edging (read 'diving headfirst into') towards requiring a Microsoft account just to log in. Apple is also extremely persistent about asking you for an Apple id. It prompts me for my Apple ID maybe once an hour. Now I'm sure that this is behavior that could be turned off in some setting, but the fact that it is somehow not difficult to get it into this state is evidence enough.
- smcl 5y ago
  This seems to happen a lot during the first ~5 days or so of buying a new iPhone. You get prompted for Apple ID login every few hours and sometimes repeatedly in quick succession. Maddening.
chmod775 5y ago
>The kicker is that they are extremely bad at mixed account scenarios, you know like needing a certain account for work and another account for private stuff. Enjoy the entropy! I never really thought about that Google is surprisingly good at this, despite being more complicated: On some services you can have multiple identities even within the same Google account (like on YouTube). They have a "Switch Account" button and it just lists all of your Google Accounts with all of your identities (YouTube channels) below them. It's really comfortable to work with and I hardly (well, not never) mess this up. The identity icon in the top right that is also repeated in every place where you're submitting something with that identity (like next to the comment box) helps to keep you oriented. Typically I give Google a lot of shit, but they've got this figured out at least.
- zouhair 5y ago

canadianwriter 5y ago

In rare good news this actually restored a purchase I thought I had lost! I purchased minecraft back in the alpha days, when the contract said you get it forever including all updates. Over the years I lost that account. Well, when Microsoft sent out this email I discovered I had been using the wrong email address - it was forwarded from an ancient email address I stopped using ages ago. I was able to go sign in (using the forgot password process), link it to my current microsoft account and now have my ancient purchase working again on a modern account! Yah, this is very specific to me, and troubling to require it, but I did get something good out of it.

Wojakmeme 5y ago

Microsoft forced me to add a phone nunber for "security reasons" because of "supspicious login activity". It was the first time I logged into the Microsoft account after I created it one day ago. There was nothing listed in the login activity section.

tehbeard 5y ago
I have one phone number and two minecraft accounts... What's the betting using it twice will lock both and fuck me out of office and Xbox?
raxxorrax 5y ago
That was exactly my experience after posting an unrelated technical question on some MS forum. Wanted to delete my account immediately because I didn't want to deal with their botnet flagging accounts. Could not delete my account anymore without providing a telephone number. Their dead database entry then... I guess they flagged it because I didn't provide contact information in the first place.

obert 5y ago

At least Microsoft didn’t buy Wordle. Dont need no account or Wordle Service Pack or a TPM there yet Edit: s/tpu/tpm/

Jon_Lowtek 5y ago
I think you mean TPM, a TPU is a tensor processing unit - an artificial intelligence coprocessor - developed by google.
- obert 5y ago
  thanks, late hours here ooops! (fixed)

Karsteski 5y ago

I've owned Minecraft on PC for over 10 years now, but this change really makes me just want to use the cracked version and switch over my Minecraft server to offline mode, just to avoid Microsoft's bullshit. Unfortunately, that would come with too many security risks, as far as my hobby server admin knowledge takes me...

cyral 5y ago

I'm doing this process now and it is a total pain due to how long their emails take to arrive. So far I needed to: - Reset my password - Answer security questions I created as a kid, had no idea to the answers, had to reset them - Finally, need a code to begin the migration Each step requires an email confirmation or code, which takes 5-10 minutes to arrive, and for the last step, the session seems to timeout around 10 minutes. This is pretty frustrating as it has taken 30+ minutes to do, I can't imagine kids will have much patience or even understand what the purpose of this is.

will4274 5y ago
Microsoft doesn't use security questions. IIUC then, your complaints are about Mojang's pre-Microsoft system. Then, would you consider this announcement a net positive, as it resolves the issues you described?
- Jon_Lowtek 5y ago
  > Microsoft doesn't use security questions. You sure about that? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/account-billing/set-up-security-questions-as-your-verification-method-3d74aedd-88a5-4932-a211-9f0bfbab5de8 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/account-billing/set-up-s... Edit: but yeah, the GP is probably talking about the Mojang account
  - will4274 5y ago
    :) technically correct is the best kind of correct. Microsoft allows IT admins to use security questions for their employees in the enterprise world by config if they so choose. Microsoft doesn't use security questions for its consumer users, like Minecraft players.
- cyral 5y ago
  I'm describing the transition from a Mojang account to MS account, as this thread is about.

brink 5y ago

A quirk that I experienced: My email is d@<my domain>.io, and thanks to Microsoft's weird password policies, I cannot use any passwords with the letter d in them.

anthk 5y ago

Try Minetest with the Dreambuilder mod. If you want a MC clone, get Mineclone 5.

duxup 5y ago

I can't make it work. I login, it demands I answer security questions ... I don't know those. The link to reset security questions demands I LOGIN. I opened a support ticket days ago... nothing. And this all when I KNOW my username and password.

jerkstate 5y ago

I can’t play Flight Simulator anymore because the app launcher is so buggy. I guess I’m done with Minecraft. Hopefully someone will come up with a suitable clone soon enough.

gorwell 5y ago

That post looks like Orwellian satire. Starting with the header image literally telling the viewer what to do. APPLAUSE Two authoritative figures standing on stage, delivering the good message to the crowd. APPLAUSE Followed by a dose of gaslighting; `So if you find yourself feeling like this transition is a hassle (but let’s be honest, it really isn’t...` Written by: Staff

dang 5y ago

Discussed recently: Last call to voluntarily migrate Java accounts - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30278313 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30278313 - Feb 2022 (105 comments)

diogenesjunior 5y ago

from what i can tell, mojang is not requiring anybody to do anything. microsoft, however, is making people migrate from mojang accounts to microsoft accounts.

bitwize 5y ago

Wellp, time to get into MineTest.

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Schinken_ 5y ago

I've said it before and I will say it again. Their account system is a joke. Some time ago someone compromised my account (and I am 99.8% sure it was not because of a weak password). I only noticed because I got an email saying "password got changed, confirm? (etc)". I manually navigated to minecraft.net, reset my password, logged in only to find out my legacy account name got changed. Apparently "Schinken" is offensive, who would've thought. Support was more than unhelpful. I later found out that for every "minecraft.net" account there is also a "mojang.com" account. I never ever used this one and I am very sure the "attacker" got in through that somewhere. This one actually lets you setup 2FA.... Would've been nice. I am actually quite annoyed at the loss of my account, the mandatory microsoft account is the final nail in the coffin for me. Let's hope minetest gets a big boost from this. Maybe I'll contribute too.

stjohnswarts 5y ago

Take a look at and support development of optional products like Veloren, https://veloren.net/ https://veloren.net/

_nickwhite 5y ago

Top 10 Best Selling Video Games of All Time: 10) Red Dead Redemption II (43M) 09) Wii Fit (43.8M) 08) Pokémon Red & Blue (47.5M) 07) Mario Kart 8 (51.8M) 06) Super Mario Bros. (58M) 05) PUBG: Battlegrounds (75M) 04) Wii Sports (82.9M) 03) Tetris (100M) 02) Grand Theft Auto V (160M) 01) Minecraft (238M) My theory on Minecraft is that because it's java-based and ultra portable, most people have bought it lots of different platforms. I know that I have personally bought it on 7 different systems for myself and for my kids over the years.

EdwardDiego 5y ago
For me it was that my kids want to play it together, and it runs on old hardware easily. If they wanted to play GTA V together, that's some expensive kit.

opportune 5y ago

When I finally migrated my account on a computer I hadn’t used minecraft on before, I had to log in to my Microsoft account on the MS store to activate the app before I could launch the downloaded installer. If I tried to launch the installer without having done that, I’d get an esoteric error. This whole migration has been janky and unnecessary. Yet another reminder as to Microsoft’s incompetence

xyzzy21 5y ago

Well, never playing I guess.

pinephoneguy 5y ago

I personally have given up playing Minecraft the official way (this coming from someone who paid for the game 10 years ago and has hosted multiple private servers.) First they destroyed the launcher, replacing with some Chrome based garbage that had more dependencies than the game itself and now this. Microsoft just eats things and their brand smells like death.