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> People that are getting angry need to point that at the cause, their own government. I'm in this thread getting angry and I live in California. Are you prepa

> People that are getting angry need to point that at the cause, their own government. I'm in this thread getting angry and I live in California. Are you prepared to be consistent by looking into my government's "war crimes and human rights violations"?

michaelmrose 5y ago
- xanaxagoras 5y ago
  The CEO came here to justify his actions by referring to specific violations of his personal values - a spurious claim in my opinion. Values are applied consistently, and you can bet there will be no action taken against western governments that are guilty of the same things that allegedly motivated Namecheap to do this. Instead the motivation is emotional and political, and it is unreasonable to remove services from paying customers because you're upset. I will never rely on a company that behaves like this.
  - NamecheapCEO 5y ago
    We aren't removing services, we are asking people to find another provider. There are thousands out there. We aren't a monopoly here.
    - xanaxagoras 5y ago
      So given that context - that you're not removing services - what is the meaning of the "whitelist" you've mentioned in several other comments? What are those users being whitelisted from?
    - anonymoushn 5y ago
      If you pay for some service for a year and the provider stops providing it after 1 month, would you agree that the provider has not removed the service?
  - Aeolun 5y ago
    > Values are applied consistently I don’t know of many governments have have waged war in Europe recently. You can mess around in the garden (overseas) as much as you want, as long as you keep the house clean. That’s not fair, but it is consistent.
    - fuy 5y ago
      This is proper racist post-colonialism, or am I missing sarcasm tag?
      - Aeolun 5y ago
        No, no, this is me trying to indicate what is implicitly said by getting so worked up about an invasion of Ukraine while being perfectly fine with one in Iraq. I mean, people weren't exactly fine with it, but I didn't see anyone sanctioning the US govt either. Of course the alternative is saying that it's fine as long as it's us (western'ish world) invading them, instead of us being invaded, but that's even more hypocritical.
        fuy 5y ago
        Yes, I see, thanks for clearing it up. I understand and can agree with this reasoning, - even if as a Russian (anti Putin and anti war, of course), this war is just too painful and too overwhelming for me to consider it in a broader anti-colonialist picture.
    - propagandist 5y ago
      Beautiful. FTR I'm totally against the war and completely understand where namecheap is coming from. But this is proper racist.
      - deleted 5y ago
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      - Yoofie 5y ago
        I would also call it xenophobia as well. I can't believe what I'm reading here.
- tasha0663 5y ago
  It's not whataboutism. Blaming the actions of a government on its citizenry in this way is a stupid policy that generalizes badly. That's obviously the point and you ought to be able to tell that!
- crossroadsguy 5y ago
  Are you fucking kidding me? Questioning USA’s human rights violations and war crimes in a thread where an American company is threatening to shutdown accounts of people in a country because their leader has gone berserk is whataboutism? So basically you’re supporting - either live in a country that’s strong enough to get away with war crimes, or be ready to get fucked whenever an extra righteous American company/CEO feels whimsical! Or even better - if you want to talk about this very topic and point out this double standard - then do that in “another thread”, right? That is some logic! Or maybe you just want to be saying “war crimes in some countries are more kosher than war crimes in certain other countries”.
grumple 5y ago
If the US started bombing Ukraine, would you really complain about Ukrainians cutting off American access to their services?

michaelmrose 5y ago

xanaxagoras 5y ago
The CEO came here to justify his actions by referring to specific violations of his personal values - a spurious claim in my opinion. Values are applied consistently, and you can bet there will be no action taken against western governments that are guilty of the same things that allegedly motivated Namecheap to do this. Instead the motivation is emotional and political, and it is unreasonable to remove services from paying customers because you're upset. I will never rely on a company that behaves like this.
- NamecheapCEO 5y ago
  We aren't removing services, we are asking people to find another provider. There are thousands out there. We aren't a monopoly here.
  - xanaxagoras 5y ago
    So given that context - that you're not removing services - what is the meaning of the "whitelist" you've mentioned in several other comments? What are those users being whitelisted from?
  - anonymoushn 5y ago
    If you pay for some service for a year and the provider stops providing it after 1 month, would you agree that the provider has not removed the service?
- Aeolun 5y ago
  > Values are applied consistently I don’t know of many governments have have waged war in Europe recently. You can mess around in the garden (overseas) as much as you want, as long as you keep the house clean. That’s not fair, but it is consistent.
  - fuy 5y ago
    This is proper racist post-colonialism, or am I missing sarcasm tag?
    - Aeolun 5y ago
      No, no, this is me trying to indicate what is implicitly said by getting so worked up about an invasion of Ukraine while being perfectly fine with one in Iraq. I mean, people weren't exactly fine with it, but I didn't see anyone sanctioning the US govt either. Of course the alternative is saying that it's fine as long as it's us (western'ish world) invading them, instead of us being invaded, but that's even more hypocritical.
      - fuy 5y ago
        Yes, I see, thanks for clearing it up. I understand and can agree with this reasoning, - even if as a Russian (anti Putin and anti war, of course), this war is just too painful and too overwhelming for me to consider it in a broader anti-colonialist picture.
  - propagandist 5y ago
    Beautiful. FTR I'm totally against the war and completely understand where namecheap is coming from. But this is proper racist.
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    - Yoofie 5y ago
      I would also call it xenophobia as well. I can't believe what I'm reading here.
tasha0663 5y ago
It's not whataboutism. Blaming the actions of a government on its citizenry in this way is a stupid policy that generalizes badly. That's obviously the point and you ought to be able to tell that!
crossroadsguy 5y ago
Are you fucking kidding me? Questioning USA’s human rights violations and war crimes in a thread where an American company is threatening to shutdown accounts of people in a country because their leader has gone berserk is whataboutism? So basically you’re supporting - either live in a country that’s strong enough to get away with war crimes, or be ready to get fucked whenever an extra righteous American company/CEO feels whimsical! Or even better - if you want to talk about this very topic and point out this double standard - then do that in “another thread”, right? That is some logic! Or maybe you just want to be saying “war crimes in some countries are more kosher than war crimes in certain other countries”.

grumple 5y ago

If the US started bombing Ukraine, would you really complain about Ukrainians cutting off American access to their services?