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Ask HN: Moscow Exchange
A Google search for "Moscow Exchange" list this as this official URL:
https://www.moex.com/en/
That URL just times out.
Anyone know what's going on?
Is this a DNS attack?
- smoyer 5y agoMaybe ... foreigners won't be allowed to trade starting with the opening bell this morning (which should have already happened.) It wouldn't surprise me if the government shut the exchange down completely. On the other hand, there have been widespread DDOS attacks as well as some pretty high-profile compromises of the Russian computing and network infrastructure. You can even help if you'd like - https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/ https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/.
- rjzzleep 5y agoAnyone that doesn't want to unintentionally DDOS infrastructure should probably not click any non news links posted on HN these days.
- smoyer 5y agoWas that warning not strong enough - perhaps I shouldn't have posted the link at all but I thought it was technically interesting that a tool was developed that even the laity could use simply by loading a web page.
- Cannabat 5y agoIt's not clear at all from your comment that opening the URL would immediately engage my computer in an attempted attack. I really would have liked an explicit warning. The JS on the page actually froze my browser; I had to force-quit it, turn off my wifi, and then open it again to be able to close the tab.
- michaelgrafl 5y agoNo it wasn't. I only realized after reading the description on the website itself. I'm on a break at work, and it feels funky to have this website doing its thing from here.
- Etheryte 5y agoThe Moscow Exchange has been closed since last Friday, February 25th, and given how things are going currently, it's unlikely to reopen soon. Many banks, lenders and middlemen already refuse to trade the ruble at all both due to the sanctions and the insane risk involved — any trade with the ruble risks being a major bag holding operation. For all practical intents and purposes, it's currently more or less in free-fall [0]. [0] https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=RUB&to=USD&view=1Y https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=RUB&to=USD&view=1Y
- throwaway4good 5y agoIt is under deliberate attack from the west as we have blocked the Russian central bank from using its massive foreign reserve to buy up the rubble as it normally would do. I think though the ruble will weather the storm; it is mostly used internally in Russia, the interest rates have been yanked up to 20%, and Russia still exports massive amounts of commodities (how they get paid I don't know? Chinese Yuan and Indian rupees maybe ...).
- smcl 5y agoWeirdly it's recovered about half of the losses from this morning (went from 83 RUB/dollar, up to 110 RUB/dollar and back at 100RUB/dollar).
- jacquesm 5y agoThat will stop at some point and then the bottom will really fall out. There is only so much sink capacity for a weak currency like the Ruble always was.
- HWR_14 5y agoI would guess it's being buoyed by people who think the upcoming peace talks will let Putin skate away without long term damage to Russia. Either that, or oligarchs are moving hidden assets back to Russia. Either because they worry they will he discovered or to take advantage of the falling Ruble to buy the other half of the country. Or maybe it's because the market of people buying rubles is really thin right now, and this is an attempt by the Russian government to manipulate the price and public opinion.
- minimilian 5y agohow illegal is this? how does one do it without X11?
- smoyer 5y agoIn the U.S. it's definitely illegal and I wasn't recommending the OP perform DDOS. From a technical perspective, it's interesting that anyone with a browser can participate.
- juanci_to 5y agoEvery request that it's sending is being blocked. Probably it's pretty easy to just refuse to serve any request that has that link as the Referer header.
- dgut 5y agoOptimally people download the source and run it locally to avoid being blocked by referer.
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- ndr 5y agoYou should put a warning around that link: it will start a lot of connections as soon as you open it.
- baal80spam 5y agoWell - https://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_a5fc34ceee9ff3c7c7780ad64a7b5f97 https://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_a5fc34ceee9ff3c7c7780ad64a... Russia shutters its stock market as the ruble crashes
- fyleo 5y agoIt‘s a targeted DDOS coordinated by the „IT Army of Ukraine“ //Edit: Other current targets include Sberbank
- recvonline 5y agoThey just stopped trading and probably block themselves from the outside. https://www.indiatoday.in/world/russia-ukraine-war/story/moscow-stock-exchange-closed-indefinitely-as-russia-invades-ukraine-1917159-2022-02-24 https://www.indiatoday.in/world/russia-ukraine-war/story/mos...
- ssijak 5y agoA lot of Russian websites are under DDoS. Try some of the online Russian news websites, same thing, at least for me. On the exchange side, they disallowed foreigners from selling Russian assets so they denied the service the old fashioned way anyhow.
- fyleo 5y agoCurrent targets also include government agencies, other financial infrastructure (e.g., ATM networks), Crypto exchanges with spikes in Ruble inflow, certain TV stations and few companies. Targets in Belarus are mainly media companies.
- throwawayay02 5y agoProbably just blocked outside traffic, specially from EU, US and Japan.
- fyleo 5y agoNo it is down also for domestic IPs
- have_faith 5y agoThis should likely be an `Ask HN:`, most will assume it's a direct link off of the website otherwise.
- birdyrooster 5y agoThey have closed the market until tomorrow morning when they will reassess.
- jussij 5y agoI would have though a simple HTML web response suggesting "The market is currently closed until tomorrow." would have worked well as their current server response. I'm generally curious as to what's going on here, only because I went to their web site expecting to find the MOEX was closed, but instead found their site appeared to be down.
- blokhasie 5y agowww.moex.com seems to be resolving to 0.0.0.0 - explains why it can't be reached. nslookup www.moex.com 8.8.8.8 Server: dns.google Address: 8.8.8.8 Non-authoritative answer: Name: cl-ae0978b2.gcdn.co Address: 0.0.0.0 Aliases: www.moex.com
- peter_retief 5y agoIt doesn't make sense for the exchange to trade at the moment.
- codingkev 5y agoNot sure what is going on there, but several Russian stocks (including ADRs and GDRs listed on the NYSE/LSE) have been suspended from trading.
- jotm 5y agoThe fascist Russian government has launched a full scale invasion of Ukraine, a country very close to Europe, which led to the EU and US imposing strict sanctions including a SWIFT block for Russian banks and seizure of Russian assets. The Ukrainian cybersecurity department is waging war on Russian websites, any and all of them. They've also been really good at (I don't want to call it that, but it is) war propaganda, which got a lot of volunteers to join. Joining the cyber war is easily done from anywhere in the world, so anyone with any skills is contributing to the defense of a sovereign state that is currently being invaded by fascist Russia. Nevermind the websites, the EU could see major power outages and severe economic damage, as there is a real possibility of Russia turning off the gas supply to Europe (gas is a fraction of their profits, oil is first by far and even that will be affected) to pressure them into easing restrictions and staying out of the war.
- askonomm 5y agoIt's not "close to Europe", it IS Europe.
- jotm 5y agoYeah, it's just that no one really cared until they launched a full scale invasion right at the borders. Probably even then they wouldn't have cared if not for millions of displaced people heading west. So in the eyes of the EU, it's a bit too close to them. Hopefully Ukraine is successful and talks about NATO and EU are taken more seriously.
- insickness 5y agoWhy did the US and Europe choose Saturday to announce blocking Swift? It seems if they did it while the markets were open on Monday it would cause much more severe damage to Russia.
- haughty 5y agoYep, there was talk about disabling 'sell' button for outside investors in a reply to 'illegitimate' sanctions. If you are a russian equity bag holder i feel bad for you, son. But not too bad... due to the fact that proverbial 'bear poking' very quickly escalated to bear bitch slapping, what come next should be interesting to observe (provided you are in a bunker).
- mnadkvlb 5y agoI received a message from my broker (ibkr) that MOEX is not available for trading today. Imgur source: https://imgur.com/gallery/CbJcd7G https://imgur.com/gallery/CbJcd7G
- est 5y agoThis seems to be an innocent question but in fact it's a weaponized HN hug of death.
- TradingPlaces 5y agoA lot of official Russian sites are 404-ing, including state media.