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I live in Sweden (country with severe darkness) and just bought two Virtual Sun united from https://innerscene.com/ https://innerscene.com/ NOTE: Be extremely

I live in Sweden (country with severe darkness) and just bought two Virtual Sun united from https://innerscene.com/ https://innerscene.com/ NOTE: Be extremely careful when transporting/moving these units, they easily break. The supplier who imported them on my behalf got two shipments with broken units until they finally got one that wasn't damaged. This happened despite FRAGILE markings on the packaging. Innerscene's Virtual Sun is much smaller and lighter than the classic Coelux. Coelux: Weight: 300 kg (660 lb) Dimensions: 2375 x 1675 x 691 mm (93.5 x 65.9 x 27.2") Innerscene Virtual Sun: Weight: 39 kg (85.8 lbs) Dimensions: 1001 x 514 x 255 mm (39 7/16 x 20 1/4 x 10")

Nextgrid 5y ago
What's the pricing for these? Looks interesting.
- JoelJacobson 5y ago
  Back in 2021-10-06 when I bought mines, they were crazy expensive! I paid 89239 SEK (~9349 USD) +25% VAT = 111549 SEK (~11685 USD) per unit. Not sure about the VAT rate if buying from US. Hopefully they have reduced the prices since then, not sure.
  - hackernewds 5y ago
    how long do these last? you seem to have made a huge capital investment here
    - JoelJacobson 5y ago
      Not sure, haven't even tried them yet, still renovating the house, three years and counting. But according to the specs: L70 ≥50,000 hours at 25°C ambient L70 is "An LED is considered to have reached its rated life at that point in time when it emits 30% less light than it initially did. This 70% brightness level is termed “L70” and may also be referred to as Lumen Maintenance." (https://nunvdata.unvlt.com/uploads/Understanding_L70_and_Why_it_Matters.pdf https://nunvdata.unvlt.com/uploads/Understanding_L70_and_Why...)
asf9b8hqw4n 5y ago
Did you take any pictures of the inner workings of the broken ones by chance? I'm curious if there are any hints about how they work, or the Coelux ones.
samstave 5y ago
What does that amount of product loss due to the OEMs bottom line, let alone the extreme waste directly into the environment.

Nextgrid 5y ago

What's the pricing for these? Looks interesting.

JoelJacobson 5y ago
Back in 2021-10-06 when I bought mines, they were crazy expensive! I paid 89239 SEK (~9349 USD) +25% VAT = 111549 SEK (~11685 USD) per unit. Not sure about the VAT rate if buying from US. Hopefully they have reduced the prices since then, not sure.
- hackernewds 5y ago
  how long do these last? you seem to have made a huge capital investment here
  - JoelJacobson 5y ago
    Not sure, haven't even tried them yet, still renovating the house, three years and counting. But according to the specs: L70 ≥50,000 hours at 25°C ambient L70 is "An LED is considered to have reached its rated life at that point in time when it emits 30% less light than it initially did. This 70% brightness level is termed “L70” and may also be referred to as Lumen Maintenance." (https://nunvdata.unvlt.com/uploads/Understanding_L70_and_Why_it_Matters.pdf https://nunvdata.unvlt.com/uploads/Understanding_L70_and_Why...)

asf9b8hqw4n 5y ago

Did you take any pictures of the inner workings of the broken ones by chance? I'm curious if there are any hints about how they work, or the Coelux ones.

samstave 5y ago

What does that amount of product loss due to the OEMs bottom line, let alone the extreme waste directly into the environment.