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I'm no expert, but I suspect tanks work better on frozen ground than muddy ground.

by everfrustrated 5y ago

AtlasBarfed 5y ago
I can see that, basically a blitzkrieg. But if it doesn't work, you have an invading army bogged down surrounded by a population that's getting armed to the teeth and hates you, and every motion/position/point of rest is watched and communicated. One of the tricks of an army besieging something is to constantly attack and not let the defenders rest. I would say with good internet intelligence and a very motivated and armed populace, insurgency could do the opposite to the russians here: deny them sleep, deny them warmth, and destroy their ability to fight. That's not just "bad morale": bad morale is a rational influence on conscious thought. With enough sleep deprivation there is no military discipline, no will to fight or follow orders. If you are a defender with the back against the wall, that can strangely motivate you. If you're a Russian young adult freezing in the cold and pissed off over an obviously frivolous war, it makes for despair. If the Ukraine and NATO were smart, they'd setup and advertise a POW camp in Greece on the beach. Surrender? We're sending you to a vacation. Ukraine is a weird situation. They are RIGHT NEXT DOOR to the EU. This isn't like supplying Afghanistan rebels from 4000 miles away. Russia has no idea what resources will be supplied from the EU, what capabilities will be granted on any given day. When will the US start providing drones? Will the US supply a huge drone fleet remotely operated from the US, and conduct night bombing operations when it is daytime in the US? Then just hand off daytime operations to the EU? If the US/EU do that with sufficient numbers of drones, then conventional air superiority (my fighters are unthreatened) doesn't protect the ground troops, and the ground troops are toast.

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I'm no expert, but I suspect tanks work better on frozen ground than muddy ground.

by everfrustrated 5y ago

I'm no expert, but I suspect tanks work better on frozen ground than muddy ground.

AtlasBarfed 5y ago
I can see that, basically a blitzkrieg. But if it doesn't work, you have an invading army bogged down surrounded by a population that's getting armed to the teeth and hates you, and every motion/position/point of rest is watched and communicated. One of the tricks of an army besieging something is to constantly attack and not let the defenders rest. I would say with good internet intelligence and a very motivated and armed populace, insurgency could do the opposite to the russians here: deny them sleep, deny them warmth, and destroy their ability to fight. That's not just "bad morale": bad morale is a rational influence on conscious thought. With enough sleep deprivation there is no military discipline, no will to fight or follow orders. If you are a defender with the back against the wall, that can strangely motivate you. If you're a Russian young adult freezing in the cold and pissed off over an obviously frivolous war, it makes for despair. If the Ukraine and NATO were smart, they'd setup and advertise a POW camp in Greece on the beach. Surrender? We're sending you to a vacation. Ukraine is a weird situation. They are RIGHT NEXT DOOR to the EU. This isn't like supplying Afghanistan rebels from 4000 miles away. Russia has no idea what resources will be supplied from the EU, what capabilities will be granted on any given day. When will the US start providing drones? Will the US supply a huge drone fleet remotely operated from the US, and conduct night bombing operations when it is daytime in the US? Then just hand off daytime operations to the EU? If the US/EU do that with sufficient numbers of drones, then conventional air superiority (my fighters are unthreatened) doesn't protect the ground troops, and the ground troops are toast.