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People will shell out insane amounts of money because of the Jeep brand. Clapped out, 10-year-old ones still can get $20k, even if you tried to take it remotely

People will shell out insane amounts of money because of the Jeep brand. Clapped out, 10-year-old ones still can get $20k, even if you tried to take it remotely "off-road" it would break in 10 different ways. If people made purely rational decisions when purchasing a car, the only manufactures left would be Toyota and Honda.

jlawer 5y ago
> If people made purely rational decisions when purchasing a car, the only manufactures left would be Toyota and Honda. Not sure if this is different regions or just dated. In Australia now, Honda is a joke. They are overpriced, offer terrible support, etc. Toyota is quality beige, overpriced but reliable, kind of like Sony TVs 15 years ago before Samsung and LG became dominate. Just like with TVs, the Korean companies (Hyundai & Kia) are the smart money brands at least in the Australian Market.
- ok123456 5y ago
  Kia/Hyundai (they're basically the same company since they own each other) have had a horrible track record in the last few years. They cannot build an engine to save their lives. They scrimped on the quality of the piston rings and other internal components and they ware out very quickly. A Kia with 150k miles is end of life, but a Honda/Toyota with that mileage is basically still being broken in, yet the Honda only has a $2k premium over the Kia.
  - lachstar-x 5y ago
    Don't they use Mitsubishi engines across the board?
    - ok123456 5y ago
      They manufacture their own. The design comes from a subsidiary.
seanp2k2 5y ago
and meanwhile, they get bested by old Toyota trucks off road https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Yy5P6FUes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Yy5P6FUes Always hilarious when people build $100K+ off-road ridiculous trucks, as unless you're totally loaded and don't care about smashing it up, it's going to get babied off-road or just never see more than a regular camping trip or some gravel. Actual hard-core off-roaders aren't driving super-expensive rigs; they're in crapcan K5 Blazers, Suzuki Samurais, old but built jeeps, tube frame customs, and side-by-sides. $40k in a SxS will get you about what a jeep would for 2x that money. Don't even get me started on the bro dozer poser trucks. Those just exist to intimidate other people on the road, and with bumpers so high and tires + ground clearance that could easily run over something like a Corvette, they shouldn't be allowed on public roads. If only we had real vehicle inspection like some in the EU do.
shahar2k 5y ago
a slightly off topic question from a novice with some messy off roading experience... is there a decent, efficient, smaller off road capable car? my current level of experience is driving through deepish (several inches) snow in chains and rocky road terrain in the eastern sierras .... in a subaru impreza... and honestly I really feel like I want to do this more!

jlawer 5y ago

> If people made purely rational decisions when purchasing a car, the only manufactures left would be Toyota and Honda. Not sure if this is different regions or just dated. In Australia now, Honda is a joke. They are overpriced, offer terrible support, etc. Toyota is quality beige, overpriced but reliable, kind of like Sony TVs 15 years ago before Samsung and LG became dominate. Just like with TVs, the Korean companies (Hyundai & Kia) are the smart money brands at least in the Australian Market.

ok123456 5y ago
Kia/Hyundai (they're basically the same company since they own each other) have had a horrible track record in the last few years. They cannot build an engine to save their lives. They scrimped on the quality of the piston rings and other internal components and they ware out very quickly. A Kia with 150k miles is end of life, but a Honda/Toyota with that mileage is basically still being broken in, yet the Honda only has a $2k premium over the Kia.
- lachstar-x 5y ago
  Don't they use Mitsubishi engines across the board?
  - ok123456 5y ago
    They manufacture their own. The design comes from a subsidiary.

seanp2k2 5y ago

and meanwhile, they get bested by old Toyota trucks off road https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Yy5P6FUes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Yy5P6FUes Always hilarious when people build $100K+ off-road ridiculous trucks, as unless you're totally loaded and don't care about smashing it up, it's going to get babied off-road or just never see more than a regular camping trip or some gravel. Actual hard-core off-roaders aren't driving super-expensive rigs; they're in crapcan K5 Blazers, Suzuki Samurais, old but built jeeps, tube frame customs, and side-by-sides. $40k in a SxS will get you about what a jeep would for 2x that money. Don't even get me started on the bro dozer poser trucks. Those just exist to intimidate other people on the road, and with bumpers so high and tires + ground clearance that could easily run over something like a Corvette, they shouldn't be allowed on public roads. If only we had real vehicle inspection like some in the EU do.

shahar2k 5y ago

a slightly off topic question from a novice with some messy off roading experience... is there a decent, efficient, smaller off road capable car? my current level of experience is driving through deepish (several inches) snow in chains and rocky road terrain in the eastern sierras .... in a subaru impreza... and honestly I really feel like I want to do this more!