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I have two ISPs in Moscow, loading https://twitter.com/ https://twitter.com/ times out on one, and gets an RST on another. https://news.ycombinator.com/ http

I have two ISPs in Moscow, loading https://twitter.com/ https://twitter.com/ times out on one, and gets an RST on another. https://news.ycombinator.com/ https://news.ycombinator.com/ is fine on both. nitter.net works fine for now.

hans1729 5y ago
>https://news.ycombinator.com/ https://news.ycombinator.com/ is fine on both. I would imagine that the russian government is careful in picking their fights right now. Provoking the it-security-crowd (both locally and abroad) is a game-theoretical no-no :-)
- marcosdumay 5y ago
  Blocking HN has a certainty of low gains, with probably low costs but a small possibility of escalating costs up to an unknown high amount. Yet, the most probable explanation is that nobody relevant even knows about the site to decide to block it.
- iso1210 5y ago
  news.ycombinator.com reliably works in China, sometimes it feels like the only https site that does :D
  - kurthr 5y ago
    Oh, that is hilarious! Partially, it's due to the low bandwidth required, but I often used it in the 2010s to gauge whether I had any western secure connectivity (e.g. VPN not working in central China) so I'm glad it's still true.
    - 3pt14159 5y ago
      Trying to censor software folks is going to cost way more than it is worth. Better to easily surveil than to deny.
- qiskit 5y ago
  Or HN is very low traffic with very little propaganda? While twitter and facebook are high traffic state propaganda operators. Check out absurd propaganda on twitter, facebook, etc. > Provoking the it-security-crowd (both locally and abroad) is a game-theoretical no-no :-) HN isn't "it-security-crowd". 99 out of 100 people here wouldn't know what to do with a terminal and depend on gui for most of their computing experience. Most here probably think pen-testing is checking how much ink a pen has.
  - Aldo_MX 5y ago
    Assuming a generic and unfamiliar terminal, I think 99 out of 100 people here would first write "help".
- oh_sigh 5y ago
  Not really. Look at how Belarus deals with technologists, and they have far fewer state resources at their disposal than Russia.
- lostmsu 5y ago
  I would imagine that the russian government is unaware of Hacker News existence.

hans1729 5y ago

>https://news.ycombinator.com/ https://news.ycombinator.com/ is fine on both. I would imagine that the russian government is careful in picking their fights right now. Provoking the it-security-crowd (both locally and abroad) is a game-theoretical no-no :-)

marcosdumay 5y ago
Blocking HN has a certainty of low gains, with probably low costs but a small possibility of escalating costs up to an unknown high amount. Yet, the most probable explanation is that nobody relevant even knows about the site to decide to block it.
iso1210 5y ago
news.ycombinator.com reliably works in China, sometimes it feels like the only https site that does :D
- kurthr 5y ago
  Oh, that is hilarious! Partially, it's due to the low bandwidth required, but I often used it in the 2010s to gauge whether I had any western secure connectivity (e.g. VPN not working in central China) so I'm glad it's still true.
  - 3pt14159 5y ago
    Trying to censor software folks is going to cost way more than it is worth. Better to easily surveil than to deny.
qiskit 5y ago
Or HN is very low traffic with very little propaganda? While twitter and facebook are high traffic state propaganda operators. Check out absurd propaganda on twitter, facebook, etc. > Provoking the it-security-crowd (both locally and abroad) is a game-theoretical no-no :-) HN isn't "it-security-crowd". 99 out of 100 people here wouldn't know what to do with a terminal and depend on gui for most of their computing experience. Most here probably think pen-testing is checking how much ink a pen has.
- Aldo_MX 5y ago
  Assuming a generic and unfamiliar terminal, I think 99 out of 100 people here would first write "help".
oh_sigh 5y ago
Not really. Look at how Belarus deals with technologists, and they have far fewer state resources at their disposal than Russia.
lostmsu 5y ago
I would imagine that the russian government is unaware of Hacker News existence.