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String literals seem to be ignored now too. ("quoted terms")

by tomkinstinch 15y ago

ugh 15y ago
No, they are not. Only if Google can’t find anything – which makes a lot of sense.
- joe_the_user 15y ago
  No, In my somewhat brief testing, current Google is simply inconsistent. Sometimes it allows searches for fully quoted terms, sometimes is fails and warns you, sometimes it fails but not warning you... Try: "society of spectacles"
  - MaysonL 15y ago
    even +"society of spectacles" doesn't do anything different...
- xnxn 15y ago
  Yes, they are. I don't have the example handy, so you'll have to take my word for it. My query was 'sqlalchemy "some quoted phrase"' and the first result didn't contain the phrase anywhere in the page. Out of desperation, I tried a +, and when that didn't work I sent my first feedback to Google.
  - deleted 15y ago
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  - ugh 15y ago
    Google couldn’t find anything and striped the quotes away.
    - xnxn 15y ago
      To clarify, this was only the first result. The others did have the phrase, and it was highlighted in their snippets.
  - waqf 15y ago
    That has been happening for years. If you click through to the cached version of the result, which is marked up to highlight your search terms, Google provides an excuse: "These terms were found only in links pointing to this page:". I've always had my doubts as to whether they really were found in links.
- rhizome 15y ago
  Only if Google can’t find anything – which makes a lot of sense. For me it doesn't, and it violates the Law of Demeter. If there are no results, tell me. Don't make me waste time wondering if any of the results have what I'm looking for, since there is no indication that the results I'm receiving are ancillary. Treating your users like they're idiots is evil.
  - patio11 15y ago
    But users are, on average, demonstrably ... not as savvy as search engineers as to the optimal way to operate their search engines.
    - throwaway32 15y ago
      well perhaps somewhat understandable, why should i be happy with an inferior interface because of it? This falls very squarely in the category of "not my problem, but you just made it my problem anyways" I see this as part of a big trend towards software and software designers that think they know what you want better than you do, and its an endless source of frustration for me, and im sure many others.
    - rhizome 15y ago
      Even so, we are all forced to use it at that level.
  - 5hoom 15y ago
    Couldn't agree more. No matches _is_ a result. I don't go use a search engine because I must click on a link, any link. I go there to find _relevant_ information. If there isn't any, tell me & I can get on with my day.
  - Confusion 15y ago
    There usually is a very clear indication right at the top of the page, informing you that the search yielded no results and that it is showing results for a different search.
    - 15y ago

String literals seem to be ignored now too. ("quoted terms")

ugh 15y ago

No, they are not. Only if Google can’t find anything – which makes a lot of sense.

joe_the_user 15y ago
No, In my somewhat brief testing, current Google is simply inconsistent. Sometimes it allows searches for fully quoted terms, sometimes is fails and warns you, sometimes it fails but not warning you... Try: "society of spectacles"
- MaysonL 15y ago
  even +"society of spectacles" doesn't do anything different...
xnxn 15y ago
Yes, they are. I don't have the example handy, so you'll have to take my word for it. My query was 'sqlalchemy "some quoted phrase"' and the first result didn't contain the phrase anywhere in the page. Out of desperation, I tried a +, and when that didn't work I sent my first feedback to Google.
- deleted 15y ago
  [deleted]
- ugh 15y ago
  Google couldn’t find anything and striped the quotes away.
  - xnxn 15y ago
    To clarify, this was only the first result. The others did have the phrase, and it was highlighted in their snippets.
- waqf 15y ago
  That has been happening for years. If you click through to the cached version of the result, which is marked up to highlight your search terms, Google provides an excuse: "These terms were found only in links pointing to this page:". I've always had my doubts as to whether they really were found in links.
rhizome 15y ago
Only if Google can’t find anything – which makes a lot of sense. For me it doesn't, and it violates the Law of Demeter. If there are no results, tell me. Don't make me waste time wondering if any of the results have what I'm looking for, since there is no indication that the results I'm receiving are ancillary. Treating your users like they're idiots is evil.
- patio11 15y ago
  But users are, on average, demonstrably ... not as savvy as search engineers as to the optimal way to operate their search engines.
  - throwaway32 15y ago
    well perhaps somewhat understandable, why should i be happy with an inferior interface because of it? This falls very squarely in the category of "not my problem, but you just made it my problem anyways" I see this as part of a big trend towards software and software designers that think they know what you want better than you do, and its an endless source of frustration for me, and im sure many others.
  - rhizome 15y ago
    Even so, we are all forced to use it at that level.
- 5hoom 15y ago
  Couldn't agree more. No matches _is_ a result. I don't go use a search engine because I must click on a link, any link. I go there to find _relevant_ information. If there isn't any, tell me & I can get on with my day.
- Confusion 15y ago
  There usually is a very clear indication right at the top of the page, informing you that the search yielded no results and that it is showing results for a different search.
  - 15y ago