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While I wouldn't have stopped this myself, I think its perfectly reasonable for a crowdfunding website to not want to host campaigns used to purchase military g
by breakfastduck 5y ago
While I wouldn't have stopped this myself, I think its perfectly reasonable for a crowdfunding website to not want to host campaigns used to purchase military grade weaponry.
- redwood 5y agoFreedom. What is being defended here is the right to have a website like this at all. The west has a long way to go to wake up to what's at stake here.
- newaccount2021 5y ago
- nojonestownpls 5y ago
- gruez 5y agoPatreon isn't against "freedom" and they most certainly know what's at stake here. What they're against is having to decide whether a cause is just or not. After all, one side's "freedom fighter" is another side's terrorist. In this case it might be pretty obvious, but they don't want to get in the habit of having to make calls, because there are far more cases that are less clear cut.
- breakfastduck 5y agoNo, it is not. Freedom != mass purchase of weapons through crowdfunding.
- saiya-jin 5y agoPatreon hosts tons of youtube channels focused only on weapons including purely military ones, how to make guns more effective (aka better at killing), how to tweak ammo to be more destructive. That's one fucked up schizophrenic stance, especially from US company in this specific conflict. Does Trump have any influence there by any chance, given his recent statements?
- IiydAbITMvJkqKf 5y ago> Does Trump have any influence there by any chance, given his recent statements? Interesting take to say the least.
- ejb999 5y ago
- unfocussed_mike 5y agoTrump campaigners and other alt-right types don't like Patreon due to prior disagreements; they literally founded an alternative platform with a parody name, to avoid it -- Hatreon.
- Cthulhu_ 5y agoAnd how well is that doing?
- unfocussed_mike 5y agoI don't really care :-)
- Jolter 5y agoThere is a difference to funding a gun blog or shooting-focused YouTube channel, versus training army personnel and buying guns for them.
- user-the-name 5y agoThe difference is that the former is pointless frivolity, and the latter is, in this case, defending against a literal invasion.
- Jolter 5y agoExactly. My point is that they are materially different. A person may disagree with Patreon’s policy, but you have to agree that it is not in fact hypocritical (or “schizophrenic”) to allow funding to one but not the other.
- salawat 5y agoLets be clear. There is no difference between weaponry and military grade. That people entertain the notion is a sign of the softening of language and perversion of meaning by the political classes to justify breaking their own founding document to centralize power (in the case of the U.S.) There is weaponry, and there is volume. And if you want to completely sidestep these issues, get a mill, some metal, and get fabbing. Save the squishy little handwringers their conscience. My heart goes out to you folks. Give 'em hell.
- breakfastduck 5y agoWell it doesn't really matter. I can't blame them for not wanting to fund weaponry of any sort on a crowdfunding site.