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The same prediction is made in Dugin's Foundations of Geopolitics. Many of his recommendations have come to pass. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_

by rozab 5y ago

The same prediction is made in Dugin's Foundations of Geopolitics. Many of his recommendations have come to pass. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics#Content https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics#Con...

emteycz 5y ago
That's because these "predictions"/recommendations are taken as school textbook (literally, it's required reading!) by Russian military.
- jessaustin 5y ago
  Nowhere does Dugin have a larger stature than in the fever dreams of western military aficionados.
  - sitkack 5y ago
    This is one of the issues I see with books of prognostications, they aren't so much as predicting the future as advocating for a course of action. They are selling their own version of the future.
  - abrichr 5y ago
    Can you please provide a source? Here are some suggesting that he is influential: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/23/ukraine-crimea-what-putin-thinking-russia https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/23/ukraine-crimea... : Dugin serves as an adviser to State Duma speaker Sergei Naryshkin, a key member of the ruling United Russia party who has loudly supported Russian intervention in Ukraine, and has made widely viewed television appearances to discuss the Ukraine crisis alongside high-ranking members of the government. [Economist Sergei Glazyev] is also an associate of Dugin's. https://www.hoover.org/research/russias-new-and-frightening-ism https://www.hoover.org/research/russias-new-and-frightening-... : Few books published in Russia during the post-communist period have exerted such an influence on Russian military, police, and foreign policy elites as Aleksandr Dugin’s 1997 neo-fascist treatise Osnovy geopolitiki: Geopoliticheskoe budushchee Rossii (Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geo-political Future of Russia). https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/27/geopolitics-russia-mackinder-eurasia-heartland-dugin-ukraine-eurasianism-manifest-destiny-putin/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/27/geopolitics-russia-mack... : The Foundations of Geopolitics sold out in four editions, and continues to be assigned as a textbook at the General Staff Academy and other military universities in Russia. “There has probably not been another book published in Russia during the post-communist period which has exerted a comparable influence on Russian military, police, and statist foreign policy elites,” writes historian John Dunlop, a Hoover Institution specialist on the Russian right. https://azure.org.il/include/print.php?id=483 https://azure.org.il/include/print.php?id=483 : The publication of The Foundations of Geopolitics in 1997 was received with great interest, and brought Dugin to the attention of powerful figures in the Russian government. He wisely befriended the oligarch Aleksandr Taranzev, who recommended him to the military general staff. ... Dugin’s book was incorporated into the curriculum of the Russian military academy and became required reading for the next generation of officers. One year later, Dugin was appointed senior political adviser to Gennadiy Seleznyov, a former member of the Communist Party and chairman of the Russian parliament, who headed the Center for Geopolitical Analysis, a think tank dedicated to policy recommendations on internal security matters. ... The radical intellectual’s stature reached new heights with the appointment of Vladimir Putin to the Russian presidency. Slowly but surely, Dugin succeeded in ingratiating himself with the new president’s inner circle. He forged strong ties with a hawkish, security-oriented clique of insiders, mostly composed of ex-members of the military and the security services. First and foremost among them was Igor Sechin, a former KGB official who has served as Putin’s closest adviser for the past fifteen years and is now deputy prime minister. Other members of this powerful faction include Security Council secretary and former head of the FSB Nikolai Patrushev; former deputy prime minister and Security Council member Sergei Ivanov; and Boris Gryzlov, the speaker of the lower house of parliament and chairman of Putin’s ruling United Russia party. https://books.google.ca/books?id=0qQixjX1hwoC&q=Gennady+Seleznyov+dugin+-during&pg=PA380&redir_esc=y#v=snippet&q=Gennady%20Seleznyov%20dugin%20-during&f=false https://books.google.ca/books?id=0qQixjX1hwoC&q=Gennady+Sele... : The activities of the copious and studious Eurasianist intellectual Alexander Dugin are making progress, and it is known that he has close relations with the Academy of the General Staff and once headed an advisory group in the office of Duma Speaker Gennady Seleznyov.
    - tekknik 5y ago
      I know you think you’re flooding them with facts, but this is hard to read. Did it require this lengthy of a post?
throwaway123x2 5y ago
I laughed at this one: The United Kingdom, merely described as an "extraterritorial floating base of the U.S.", should be cut off from Europe.[9]
- AlgorithmicTime 5y ago
  "Airstrip One"
- tim333 5y ago
  Well they seem to have done quite well with that one. It's a shame it doesn't float or we could tow it a bit further south.
- exikyut 5y ago
  That entire list of predictions is apparently from a PDF dated 2004. Aaaand now Brexit is a thing. A long-term pseudo-thing, but still a thing. *Reads the rest of the list*
rvba 5y ago
For a book that seems to be mentioned so much it is confusing that there is no English translation (apart from machine learning one). With "unofficial" translations you will never know if the translators didnt censor/change the meaning somehow.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > With "unofficial" translations you will never know if the translators didnt censor/change the meaning somehow With official translations, you don't know that, either. In fact, for the same reasons that politicians who speak in multiple languages often give speeches, on a given subject, with substantially different content in different languages, official translations of books that are designed as political propaganda or advocacy often shade the content to different anticipated audiences in different languages.

by rozab 5y ago

emteycz 5y ago

That's because these "predictions"/recommendations are taken as school textbook (literally, it's required reading!) by Russian military.

jessaustin 5y ago
Nowhere does Dugin have a larger stature than in the fever dreams of western military aficionados.
- sitkack 5y ago
  This is one of the issues I see with books of prognostications, they aren't so much as predicting the future as advocating for a course of action. They are selling their own version of the future.
- abrichr 5y ago
  Can you please provide a source? Here are some suggesting that he is influential: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/23/ukraine-crimea-what-putin-thinking-russia https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/23/ukraine-crimea... : Dugin serves as an adviser to State Duma speaker Sergei Naryshkin, a key member of the ruling United Russia party who has loudly supported Russian intervention in Ukraine, and has made widely viewed television appearances to discuss the Ukraine crisis alongside high-ranking members of the government. [Economist Sergei Glazyev] is also an associate of Dugin's. https://www.hoover.org/research/russias-new-and-frightening-ism https://www.hoover.org/research/russias-new-and-frightening-... : Few books published in Russia during the post-communist period have exerted such an influence on Russian military, police, and foreign policy elites as Aleksandr Dugin’s 1997 neo-fascist treatise Osnovy geopolitiki: Geopoliticheskoe budushchee Rossii (Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geo-political Future of Russia). https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/27/geopolitics-russia-mackinder-eurasia-heartland-dugin-ukraine-eurasianism-manifest-destiny-putin/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/27/geopolitics-russia-mack... : The Foundations of Geopolitics sold out in four editions, and continues to be assigned as a textbook at the General Staff Academy and other military universities in Russia. “There has probably not been another book published in Russia during the post-communist period which has exerted a comparable influence on Russian military, police, and statist foreign policy elites,” writes historian John Dunlop, a Hoover Institution specialist on the Russian right. https://azure.org.il/include/print.php?id=483 https://azure.org.il/include/print.php?id=483 : The publication of The Foundations of Geopolitics in 1997 was received with great interest, and brought Dugin to the attention of powerful figures in the Russian government. He wisely befriended the oligarch Aleksandr Taranzev, who recommended him to the military general staff. ... Dugin’s book was incorporated into the curriculum of the Russian military academy and became required reading for the next generation of officers. One year later, Dugin was appointed senior political adviser to Gennadiy Seleznyov, a former member of the Communist Party and chairman of the Russian parliament, who headed the Center for Geopolitical Analysis, a think tank dedicated to policy recommendations on internal security matters. ... The radical intellectual’s stature reached new heights with the appointment of Vladimir Putin to the Russian presidency. Slowly but surely, Dugin succeeded in ingratiating himself with the new president’s inner circle. He forged strong ties with a hawkish, security-oriented clique of insiders, mostly composed of ex-members of the military and the security services. First and foremost among them was Igor Sechin, a former KGB official who has served as Putin’s closest adviser for the past fifteen years and is now deputy prime minister. Other members of this powerful faction include Security Council secretary and former head of the FSB Nikolai Patrushev; former deputy prime minister and Security Council member Sergei Ivanov; and Boris Gryzlov, the speaker of the lower house of parliament and chairman of Putin’s ruling United Russia party. https://books.google.ca/books?id=0qQixjX1hwoC&q=Gennady+Seleznyov+dugin+-during&pg=PA380&redir_esc=y#v=snippet&q=Gennady%20Seleznyov%20dugin%20-during&f=false https://books.google.ca/books?id=0qQixjX1hwoC&q=Gennady+Sele... : The activities of the copious and studious Eurasianist intellectual Alexander Dugin are making progress, and it is known that he has close relations with the Academy of the General Staff and once headed an advisory group in the office of Duma Speaker Gennady Seleznyov.
  - tekknik 5y ago
    I know you think you’re flooding them with facts, but this is hard to read. Did it require this lengthy of a post?

throwaway123x2 5y ago

I laughed at this one: The United Kingdom, merely described as an "extraterritorial floating base of the U.S.", should be cut off from Europe.[9]

AlgorithmicTime 5y ago
"Airstrip One"
tim333 5y ago
Well they seem to have done quite well with that one. It's a shame it doesn't float or we could tow it a bit further south.
exikyut 5y ago
That entire list of predictions is apparently from a PDF dated 2004. Aaaand now Brexit is a thing. A long-term pseudo-thing, but still a thing. *Reads the rest of the list*

rvba 5y ago

For a book that seems to be mentioned so much it is confusing that there is no English translation (apart from machine learning one). With "unofficial" translations you will never know if the translators didnt censor/change the meaning somehow.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> With "unofficial" translations you will never know if the translators didnt censor/change the meaning somehow With official translations, you don't know that, either. In fact, for the same reasons that politicians who speak in multiple languages often give speeches, on a given subject, with substantially different content in different languages, official translations of books that are designed as political propaganda or advocacy often shade the content to different anticipated audiences in different languages.