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“Don’t link to NSFW content on your resume” seems like a common-sense rule that’s applicable independently of whether you worked in the porn industry or not.

imwillofficial 5y ago
For real, just take it off the resume after the first non-positive reaction. Pro tip: Your resume is your greatest hits album, not an encyclopedia entry on you.
- wldcordeiro 5y ago
  Maybe they did good work and felt proud of it and thought the hiring managers could look past the content of the product of the company and look at the real work needed to deliver that product.
  - imwillofficial 5y ago
    Unfortunately, here on planet earth, people are not always reasonable, logical, or act in their best interests. We must calibrate our messaging to have the intended effect. If what you’re putting out isn’t being received as intended, modulate the signal.
    - sdoering 5y ago
      Exactly. That is why such a entry in your resume works like a great filter. If I had worked in NSFW and an application would get rejected because of that I would sincerely thank my former job for saving me a job in an environment I would not want to touch with a ten foot pole. If people in (even small power) like HR drones abuse their position as to flag a resume because of such a former experience I doubt there is a company culture of honesty, openness, respect or value of the individual. To me personally a great filter to have. If one is desperately in need of a job. OK - remove it and try to jump ship once secured in the current place.
      - imwillofficial 5y ago
        A great non-obvious take. I like it.
      - wldcordeiro 5y ago
        Good summary of my thoughts on this, thanks for jumping!
      - samhw 5y ago
        > If people in (even small power) like HR drones abuse their position I call this the traffic warden principle: Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. A really tiny amount of power, in one specific area of your life, corrupts even more. (Also, FWIW, it's "people in (even small) power", not "people in (even small power)".)
    - toyg 5y ago
      TBF, that calculation is only necessary in some circumstances. Want to get into FAANG? Corporate HR is dominated by women, better clean up your act. Wanna get hired by the hot bro-startup to be single-digit-employee? No purge necessary - if anything, those blue entries will score more points.
  - code_runner 5y ago
    It sounds as if they’ve learned otherwise through first hand experience at this point. Seems like a way to shock the people actually putting real effort into vetting a candidates resume/credentials. Maybe a warning that it’s nsfw would cause less extreme reactions.
amelius 5y ago
Even less applicable if you didn't work in the industry.
- nefitty 5y ago
  Seriously. All he had to do was make a SFW version for his resume if he was so keen on showing off the work. Use pictures of smurfs and puppies. I might unfairly be making assumptions about how technically feasible the change would be. If it would be difficult to do so, I'd be interested to learn how/why, eg was it a system design choice or is it inherent to the tech itself...
  - brailsafe 5y ago
    It's probably true that most work worth keeping on a resume, after some experience, is going to be non-trivial to replicate at best, and awkward to lie about/dance around in explaining purely to accommodate the sensitivities of adults who should chill out. I've worked mostly for companies I wasn't fired from, and it'd be great to avoid talking about the experience directly. Could I re-create the frontend interface for massive auction company? Maybe, but it would take a large amount of extremely unsatisfactory work. Could I recreate the database, backend infrastructure, and conditions that really made the work hard? No
    - nefitty 5y ago
      Yeah, you're definitely right. If I was in that situation, I think I would be up front about the nature of the work and offer a "sanitized" textual walkthrough of the project. Let people decide if they want to risk being offended. I'm slightly conflicted here. I don't like pretending that facets of life don't exist, especially when they don't directly harm the involved, but I am also mindful of people's individual sensitivities. To tie it back to something more general, it seems like a lot of software engineering work is predicated on the cis male perspective. It's hard for me to imagine the psychological impact that sexual harassment might have on a woman, partly because I have the privilege of moving through the world without having my body or attractiveness be a point of interest whatsoever. I feel safe walking outside at night. I don't check my car's backseat before getting in. I have no idea what the fear of kidnapping even is. In light of the above, of being honest with the gaps in what I will ever experience, how can I venture to link to a site that might offend a woman? Even if it seems ok to me, and it's a joke or whatever excuse, how can I possibly say I fully understand her perspective when her lived experience places her in such vastly different situations?
tshaddox 5y ago
There's a big difference between surprising someone by leading them to a website that immediate shows NSFW content and putting on your resume that you previously worked for a company that published NSFW content. The latter absolutely should not be considered "NSFW" and shouldn't be considered a red flag by a potential employer.

imwillofficial 5y ago

For real, just take it off the resume after the first non-positive reaction. Pro tip: Your resume is your greatest hits album, not an encyclopedia entry on you.

wldcordeiro 5y ago
Maybe they did good work and felt proud of it and thought the hiring managers could look past the content of the product of the company and look at the real work needed to deliver that product.
- imwillofficial 5y ago
  Unfortunately, here on planet earth, people are not always reasonable, logical, or act in their best interests. We must calibrate our messaging to have the intended effect. If what you’re putting out isn’t being received as intended, modulate the signal.
  - sdoering 5y ago
    Exactly. That is why such a entry in your resume works like a great filter. If I had worked in NSFW and an application would get rejected because of that I would sincerely thank my former job for saving me a job in an environment I would not want to touch with a ten foot pole. If people in (even small power) like HR drones abuse their position as to flag a resume because of such a former experience I doubt there is a company culture of honesty, openness, respect or value of the individual. To me personally a great filter to have. If one is desperately in need of a job. OK - remove it and try to jump ship once secured in the current place.
    - imwillofficial 5y ago
      A great non-obvious take. I like it.
    - wldcordeiro 5y ago
      Good summary of my thoughts on this, thanks for jumping!
    - samhw 5y ago
      > If people in (even small power) like HR drones abuse their position I call this the traffic warden principle: Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. A really tiny amount of power, in one specific area of your life, corrupts even more. (Also, FWIW, it's "people in (even small) power", not "people in (even small power)".)
  - toyg 5y ago
    TBF, that calculation is only necessary in some circumstances. Want to get into FAANG? Corporate HR is dominated by women, better clean up your act. Wanna get hired by the hot bro-startup to be single-digit-employee? No purge necessary - if anything, those blue entries will score more points.
- code_runner 5y ago
  It sounds as if they’ve learned otherwise through first hand experience at this point. Seems like a way to shock the people actually putting real effort into vetting a candidates resume/credentials. Maybe a warning that it’s nsfw would cause less extreme reactions.

amelius 5y ago

Even less applicable if you didn't work in the industry.

nefitty 5y ago
Seriously. All he had to do was make a SFW version for his resume if he was so keen on showing off the work. Use pictures of smurfs and puppies. I might unfairly be making assumptions about how technically feasible the change would be. If it would be difficult to do so, I'd be interested to learn how/why, eg was it a system design choice or is it inherent to the tech itself...
- brailsafe 5y ago
  It's probably true that most work worth keeping on a resume, after some experience, is going to be non-trivial to replicate at best, and awkward to lie about/dance around in explaining purely to accommodate the sensitivities of adults who should chill out. I've worked mostly for companies I wasn't fired from, and it'd be great to avoid talking about the experience directly. Could I re-create the frontend interface for massive auction company? Maybe, but it would take a large amount of extremely unsatisfactory work. Could I recreate the database, backend infrastructure, and conditions that really made the work hard? No
  - nefitty 5y ago
    Yeah, you're definitely right. If I was in that situation, I think I would be up front about the nature of the work and offer a "sanitized" textual walkthrough of the project. Let people decide if they want to risk being offended. I'm slightly conflicted here. I don't like pretending that facets of life don't exist, especially when they don't directly harm the involved, but I am also mindful of people's individual sensitivities. To tie it back to something more general, it seems like a lot of software engineering work is predicated on the cis male perspective. It's hard for me to imagine the psychological impact that sexual harassment might have on a woman, partly because I have the privilege of moving through the world without having my body or attractiveness be a point of interest whatsoever. I feel safe walking outside at night. I don't check my car's backseat before getting in. I have no idea what the fear of kidnapping even is. In light of the above, of being honest with the gaps in what I will ever experience, how can I venture to link to a site that might offend a woman? Even if it seems ok to me, and it's a joke or whatever excuse, how can I possibly say I fully understand her perspective when her lived experience places her in such vastly different situations?

tshaddox 5y ago

There's a big difference between surprising someone by leading them to a website that immediate shows NSFW content and putting on your resume that you previously worked for a company that published NSFW content. The latter absolutely should not be considered "NSFW" and shouldn't be considered a red flag by a potential employer.