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Okay, so what happens if the world gets into pre 1990's state? Will the internet function as normal? Can US be a refuge for banned Russian content and Russia be
by mrtksn 5y ago
Okay, so what happens if the world gets into pre 1990's state? Will the internet function as normal? Can US be a refuge for banned Russian content and Russia be a refuge for banned Western content? For Android it's a bit straightforward but Apparently Apple commands ~30% of the Russian smartphone market[0], what happens to Russian iPhone users if American companies are prohibited from doing business in Russia?
[0] : https://www.statista.com/statistics/262174/market-share-held-by-mobile-operating-systems-in-russia/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/262174/market-share-held...
- akmarinov 5y agoWill Russia even be able to get chips needed for pretty much everything?
- mrtksn 5y agoYeah, why not? Do you expect China, Korea and Taiwan to join NATO anytime soon? Also, during the Soviet times they used to have flourishing copycat IC industry.
- raxxorrax 5y agoNobody gets any chips currently anyway. It already spawned a recycling industry where cheap .10$ chips get removed from boards to be reused. That wasn't economically viable before...
- encryptluks2 5y agoWhat happens to Microsoft if American companies are prohibited from doing business in Russia? Maybe Russia will end up with their own mobile and desktop OS?
- trasz 5y agoThis would present an interesting problem to Open Source. Major projects would probably get forked, but the patches would probably keep flowing (being merged) between them somehow?
- raxxorrax 5y agoI think open source would be prudent to completely ignore this conflict or any sanctions some countries want to enforce or not.
- trasz 5y agoCompletely ignoring the sanctions might be against the law. This could mean risking the entire project to become delegalized in the US.
- raxxorrax 5y agoI don't think there is any trade happening and some contributors might be Russian. I don't see how any state could claim ownership. So on what basis would these supposed sanction operate? Another topic is support contracts which could be prohibited but luckily open source is not too vulnerable against day to day politics. Lawfare could do damage, but also to the country hosting open source solutions. And that is pretty great.
- trasz 5y agoYou don't need to participate in commercial activities to fall victim to sanctions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Fischer#1992_Spassky_rematch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Fischer#1992_Spassky_rem...
- encryptluks2 5y agoBy that definition, any open source project would be illegal if a sanctioned country used the open source software in a way that benefits them economically. I don't see how this would work and in fact, GitHub has already dealt with this issue with countries like Iran: https://github.blog/2021-01-05-advancing-developer-freedom-github-is-fully-available-in-iran/ https://github.blog/2021-01-05-advancing-developer-freedom-g... Regardless, as long as that country has Internet, there is little that can be done about developers using a VPN and saying they are from another country.
- aaaaaaaaata 5y agoUp until some recent year, at least some of their government systems ran a modified version of XP. Seems to me they'll figure it out.
- drra 5y agoComputer screen during Putin's speech today looked like Windows XP.