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Just imagine: if this is how they treat someone with Chris Lattner's reputation, think about how they'll treat a new contributor writing their first new feature
by amyjess 5y ago
Just imagine: if this is how they treat someone with Chris Lattner's reputation, think about how they'll treat a new contributor writing their first new feature proposal. It's not a project I'll ever want to touch.
- klelatti 5y agoIndeed, astonishing really. Seems to me to probably reflect a high degree of insecurity: if you're not secure and feel the need to protect your position I can imagine some people reacting this way if Chris is telling everyone he thinks your idea is a bad one.
- caycep 5y agoI've heard great teams at Apple and toxic teams - maybe more on Software than hardware (see the writeup / postmortem on Aperture which started off great but middle managers under time constraints ruined it/made it toxic). Not sure if Apple silo-ing off teams lets this perpetuate, but then again, it's not like Google or FB have their own share of toxic groups. You'd think something like that whole Apple university MBA program would figure out better ways of managing large numbers of people with commensurate egos, but it seems like an unsolved problem.
- manmal 5y agoI don't believe the silo-ing of teams is a problem in itself. If teams are not silo-ed in a company of 150k employees, things will grind to a halt quickly.
- halfmatthalfcat 5y agoSucks because Apple has hired a lot of really talented developers to work on Swift. I hope they aren't being treated to this kind of toxicity.