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Don't blame the lawmaker for the bad behaviour of people who are trying to bypass it... If you're on such website, you know that the website itself shouldn't be

by boudin 5y ago

Don't blame the lawmaker for the bad behaviour of people who are trying to bypass it... If you're on such website, you know that the website itself shouldn't be trusted.

mlatu 5y ago
the laws are teethless if they are not enforced, and playing hot potatoe with responsibilities like is the case with Max Schrems makes it all laughable. dont blame the lawmaker for participants bad behaviour? well, ok. allright. but i DO blame the responsible authorities for licking the misbehaving participants' boots
- dbrgn 5y ago
  Enforcing requires court cases and time. That's how law works, unfortunately. Fortunately organizations like NOYB (with Max Schrems) are doing exactly this: https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-files-422-formal-gdpr-complaints-nerve-wrecking-cookie-banners https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-files-422-formal-gdpr-complaints-ner... Once there are a few high-profile cases with high fines to set a precedent, this hopefully changes the way companies handle cookie banners.
- the_other 5y ago
  > the laws are teethless if they are not enforced How many sites have you reported?
- krageon 5y ago
  > if they are not enforced Ok, but they are enforced. So this entire line of reasoning makes absolutely zero sense. If your demand is that every infraction is enforced immediately, then you will be disappointed. Such things take time. > i DO blame the responsible authorities for licking the misbehaving participants' boots There's a single European country that does this (Ireland) and it is definitely a stain on an otherwise healthy situation in terms of enforcement. It is not fair to attribute their willful ignorance in the face of plain bribing to the rest of the enforcement agencies.
- fsflover 5y ago
  > the laws are teethless if they are not enforced https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ https://www.enforcementtracker.com/
MrYellowP 5y ago
Yes, absolutely blame the lawmaker for making laws which are completely detached from how people operate. Yes, absolutely, blame lawmakers for making laws that don't actually fit reality. Yes. Absolutely.

by boudin 5y ago

Don't blame the lawmaker for the bad behaviour of people who are trying to bypass it... If you're on such website, you know that the website itself shouldn't be trusted.

mlatu 5y ago

the laws are teethless if they are not enforced, and playing hot potatoe with responsibilities like is the case with Max Schrems makes it all laughable. dont blame the lawmaker for participants bad behaviour? well, ok. allright. but i DO blame the responsible authorities for licking the misbehaving participants' boots

dbrgn 5y ago
Enforcing requires court cases and time. That's how law works, unfortunately. Fortunately organizations like NOYB (with Max Schrems) are doing exactly this: https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-files-422-formal-gdpr-complaints-nerve-wrecking-cookie-banners https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-files-422-formal-gdpr-complaints-ner... Once there are a few high-profile cases with high fines to set a precedent, this hopefully changes the way companies handle cookie banners.
the_other 5y ago
> the laws are teethless if they are not enforced How many sites have you reported?
krageon 5y ago
> if they are not enforced Ok, but they are enforced. So this entire line of reasoning makes absolutely zero sense. If your demand is that every infraction is enforced immediately, then you will be disappointed. Such things take time. > i DO blame the responsible authorities for licking the misbehaving participants' boots There's a single European country that does this (Ireland) and it is definitely a stain on an otherwise healthy situation in terms of enforcement. It is not fair to attribute their willful ignorance in the face of plain bribing to the rest of the enforcement agencies.
fsflover 5y ago
> the laws are teethless if they are not enforced https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ https://www.enforcementtracker.com/

MrYellowP 5y ago

Yes, absolutely blame the lawmaker for making laws which are completely detached from how people operate. Yes, absolutely, blame lawmakers for making laws that don't actually fit reality. Yes. Absolutely.