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I've been seeing a suspicious amount of mentions of Hetzner on HN lately. (Just an observation.)
by noodles_nomore 5y ago
I've been seeing a suspicious amount of mentions of Hetzner on HN lately. (Just an observation.)
- i_like_waiting 5y agoYeah, HN really likes: Postgres, Rust, Linux, Hetzner topics dislikes: google search, crypto, aws outages I would (and will) jump on Hetzner as soon as they build datacenter in UK. Seems like amazing cloud alternative for companies that cannot justify prices of the big 3 (aws, gcp, azure).
- catdog 5y ago> Yeah, HN really likes: Postgres, Rust, Linux, Hetzner You forgot SQLite. > Seems like amazing cloud alternative for companies that cannot justify prices of the big 3 (aws, gcp, azure). It is. The big 3 can be crazily expensive and there are many use cases where you can happily go with a less features but more affordable option. Also traffic is generally way cheaper.
- taneliv 5y agoOut of interest, what's wrong with Hetzner's data center(s) in Germany?
- i_like_waiting 5y agoGDPR, as UK has its own rules (maybe it would be okay as well, but our legal team has huge backlog and for now on-premises works just fine)
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- quickthrower2 5y agolikes adblockers too. hates SF nimbyism.
- anaganisk 5y agoU forgot cloudflare, its over hyped here.
- azeirah 5y agoHetzner is pretty good
- lovelearning 5y agoI'm just a customer and this is my first post in months. The post is actually a negative for Hetzner. They never told me they were offering 10x the capacity for the same price. That's why the Tell HN PSA.
- obeid 5y agoI get that this is an upgrade, but it is a 'change' to the configurations that the customer set up their instance with. It would have been outrageous if they opted everyone is without their consent.
- lovelearning 5y agoCertainly not upgraded automatically. My complaint is that they never even told me the option's available.
- ashkulz 5y agoThanks, in the same situation as you and feel the same!
- elorant 5y agoThey have great services for the price, and their machines are reliable.
- foepys 5y agoHetzner has been known in Germany for quite a while now. They are a very cheap but reliable hosting provider, not really a cloud service. A friend of mine used them over 10 years ago for some dedicated servers and got them to connect the servers to the same switch for sub-millisecond latency (try that with AWS...). They have VMs and sell them as "cloud" but provisioning happens like you fill out a form and they give you a server. It's not instant but fast enough if you don't spin VMs up and down like crazy. The thing to remember with Hetzner is that they are cheap. Low prices and good infrastructure but you have to do quite a bit yourself and many features one expects from a cloud provider aren't available. Last time I checked they don't have an API to change DNS settings for your domains. You can write GPG signed emails to a bot but I don't know how well that works.
- the_duke 5y agoThat's outdated information, Hetzner launched a cloud service a few years ago. Provisioning of cloud instances is pretty much instant.
- diftraku 5y agoPlus there's a Terraform provider for it as well: https://registry.terraform.io/providers/hetznercloud/hcloud/latest/docs https://registry.terraform.io/providers/hetznercloud/hcloud/...
- rgrmrts 5y agoNot to mention they also have a terraform provider. So you don’t need to use the website if you don’t want to. (the bare metal offering does not have terraform support) Edit: ahh someone already mentioned this. Didn’t read that comment before posting
- mrighele 5y agoThey also have a REST interface [1] and a command line tool [2] to do those operations (and others) without having to use the website. [1] https://docs.hetzner.cloud/ https://docs.hetzner.cloud/ [2] https://github.com/hetznercloud/cli https://github.com/hetznercloud/cli
- maxbaines 5y agoAlso just a customer, but always happy to see Hetzner on HN, never been let down.
- matsemann 5y agoSuspicious?
- y4mi 5y agoas a customer i doubt its coordinated. their marketing is always extremely, how should i phrase it.... old? i'd seriously doubt their PR department is even remotely aggressive enough to even think of influencing social media.
- MathCodeLove 5y agoThat's just what a PR department coordinating a social media influence campaign would say. /s (but not really)
- ant6n 5y agoRecently, somebody on hn posted this crazy video showing what the hezner data centers look like https://youtu.be/ https://youtu.be/ I enjoyed it
- philip1209 5y agoGDPR creates an interesting opportunity for European-owned datacenter hosting in Europe
- alberth 5y agoHetzner provides unbelievable value but didn’t get much US attention since they were only located in Europe. 3 months ago they launched in the US, and as such - they are starting to get more attention. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29092715 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29092715
- systemvoltage 5y agoIt is interesting to see comments expressing extreme concerns about US employees being able to access Hetzner servers, but then I'd wager: 1) they're probably using Google/US services at their companies with almost a gaurantee 2) Germany has ties with US for surveillance 3) Hetzner uses US servers (Intel, AMD, Micron) and a whole bunch of other components in their servers. Or worse, Chinese components. I guess I fail to see the logic in all of this, appears to be uninformed security theatrics.
- somebodythere 5y agoI think it's just about latency. If most of your users/employees are located in NA, it doesn't make much sense to give them degraded network experience to save few Euros on hosting costs.
- sshine 5y agoIt’s not a few euros. It’s easily a factor 10-20 in costs.
- somebodythere 5y agoCompared to AWS et al, sure. But there are plenty cloud services with datacenters in USA that are similarly cost-effective.
- Hamuko 5y agoI used to run a service that hosted about a terabyte of video content and at its peak did 1 TB of outbound traffic in 24 hours. Cost 25 €/month with Hetzner. With AWS, that amount of money would only cover about 300 GB of outbound traffic. No compute, no storage, just egress to last like a third of a busy day.
- adventured 5y agoHetzner has been providing me with a suspicious amount of value for my money. I've had a really great experience since switching over from DigitalOcean after Hetzner opened their Virginia datacenter. DigitalOcean was a nearly perfect experience for eight years - I can only say good things about them. And then Hetzner went and gave me twice the value with comparable reliability. Frankly I feel spoiled.
- fxtentacle 5y agoThey probably have many happy customers in Europe. At least I'm one. And now they finally have an US data center, so now it makes sense to talk about them.
- digianarchist 5y agoIt's all fun and games with Hetzner until you get a denial of service attack or someone uploads content against their ToS. They will shut you down without informing you.
- jodrellblank 5y ago> "Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data." - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- fivea 5y ago> I've been seeing a suspicious amount of mentions of Hetzner on HN lately. (Just an observation.) I never get tired of praising Hetzner. Their prices are remarkably a fraction of AWS's equivalent products,and their pricing model is completely rational.
- rosndo 5y agoWhat about suspicious amounts of mentions of AWS and GCP?
- Hetzner_OL 5y agoTo the best of my knowledge, I am the only Hetzner employee actively responding to comments on HN. We don't pay for people to make comments. --Katie