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its possible to work out enough that compensative eating is not possible, but very few people work out that much, and some people have amazing eating powers, su
by gameswithgo 5y ago
its possible to work out enough that compensative eating is not possible, but very few people work out that much, and some people have amazing eating powers, such that even riding a bike 50 miles a day isn’t enough to stop them being fat unless they also count calories.
- PaulDavisThe1st 5y agoRiding a bicycle? It's roughly 5x more efficient than running or walking. If you want to lose weight from cycling, you're going to have ride significantly further than 50 miles a day.
- taeric 5y agoI successfully lost weight at only twenty miles a day. Now... For a time, that also included Queen Anne Hill, in Seattle. So a decent amount of climbing. Still, I could lose weight easily while biking.
- QuercusMax 5y agoI lost weight on 15-20 miles per day as well. Also have lost a bunch of weight (or at least replaced fat with muscle) from just doing 10-15 minutes of PT exercises (strength training, stretching, and yoga) plus walking an extra mile or two per day.
- nightski 5y agoIt has very little to do with distance. I lose weight much faster with hiit than riding long distance.
- PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago"much faster" is ambiguous here. Ride 150 miles a day every day for a week, don't over-eat, and you will lose much more weight than you ever could from HIIT. On the other hand, that's a lot of hours, and HIIT will easily win in terms of weight-loss per unit time.
- gameswithgo 5y agoPaul, you can lose all of your weight without working out at all!
- PaulDavisThe1st 5y agoYou don't know anything about my weight! :)) For sure. But the discussion going on here (and in TFA) is the balance between weight loss via exercise and weight loss via lower calorie consumption.
- nightski 5y agoHow is it ambiguous. You clearly understood I meant calories burned per unit time.
- fredophile 5y agoThe ambiguity is what unit of time you care about. With HIIT you lose more weight per minute of exercise you do. With a lot of LISS you can lose more weight per week than you could with HIIT.
- nightski 5y agoUnderstood, but the parent I responded to was talking about efficiency so I thought that was the context. In my experience I'm not so sure about that either. I can't repeat centuries day after day when I am out of shape and need to lose weight. If one can, it's very unlikely he/she needs to lose weight.
- gameswithgo 5y agoPaul, if I am doing 50 miles at 300 watts that isn’t any different than running for two hours. You can set whatever level of intensity you want for the duration. 50 miles a day all out will wear out even olympic athletes. Source: I work with olympic athletes and time trial champions
- PaulDavisThe1st 5y agoSure, 50 miles a day @ 300W is not much different than running for 2 hours at a sub-7min/mile pace. But most people cycling 50 miles are not generating 300W continuously, and most people running for 2 hours are not doing a sub-7min pace for the duration. ps. I have run for 2 hours at a sub-7 min pace, and cycled 50 miles at about 280W.
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- throwaway09223 5y agoI ride 20-25 miles a day on a stationary bike, at about 20-25mph steady rate. It burns a bit over 1000 calories during the hour. It's more than enough to make a significant change, especially when paired with a half hour of weights.
- twoWhlsGud 5y agoOr live somewhere where you can climb hills on the way to the grocery store... : )
- joeld42 5y agoDepends. I can do 15 miles at a leisurely pace on a social ride and not burn very many calories. I can do those same 15 miles at a fast pace and burn 2-3x as many calories. And then you can throw in some hills too. I lost 80 pounds over the last couple years with riding average of 12 miles a day.
- bluecalm 5y agoAre you sure about those numbers? Running is about 1kcal/km/kg of body weight. For cycling to be 5x as efficient you would only need 14kcal/km for 70kg man. I don't think it's realistic. The numbers I've seen are closer to 25kcal/km.
- taeric 5y agoI'm guessing there are very few folks getting fifty miles a day in, and still heavily overweight. Possible, to be sure. Just very unlikely.
- gameswithgo 5y agoI know such a person which is why I mentioned it. That vast range of human physiology is fascinatingly wide. He also is very aerobically gifted, possibly related things. (efficient engine, but not confirmed with testing, maybe just a big engine and loves food)
- taeric 5y agoCompletely fair. Thinking on it, if food is,I eat it. Any pizza is a personal pizza, if you like pizza. :) Still. Guessing most folks that can ride fifty miles are not overweight.