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DON'T PRESS THAT BUTTON. The egress and early deletion fees on those "cheaper options" killed a company that I had to step in and save.

pphysch 5y ago
On a related note, suppose the Fed raises rates to mitigate inflation and indirectly kills thousands of zombie companies, including many SaaS renting the cloud. What happens to their data? Does the cloud unilaterally evict/delete it, or does it get handled like an asset -- auctioned off, etc?
- Uehreka 5y ago
  > does it get handled like an asset -- auctioned off, etc? Who would buy that? I guess if this happened enough then people would start "data salvager" companies that specialize in going through data they have no schema for looking for a way to sell something of it to someone else. I have to imagine the margins in a business like that would be abysmal, and all the while you'd be in a pretty dark place ethically going through data that users never wanted you to have in the first place. Of course, all these questions are moot because if this happened the GDPR would nuke the cloud provider from orbit.
- cmckn 5y ago
  I’m not aware of a cloud provider that is contractually allowed to do such a thing (except maybe alibaba by way of the CCP). Dying companies get purchased and have their assets pilfered every day, the same thing would happen with cloud assets.
  - bpicolo 5y ago
    If the dead company stops paying the bills, Amazon can definitely delete that.
    - cmckn 5y ago
      Of course, I meant the idea of auctioning it off or otherwise accessing the customer’s data. When I worked in Azure, I accidentally created some internal resources in a personal account. I didn’t have the ability to delete them after I left; the only way to do so was to cancel the credit card and let the grace period expire.
Aeolun 5y ago
If they were already paying 100k per month for their storage, I doubt the additional 100k would severely impact their business. Proven by the fact that they happily went on to pay the bill for the next 6 months.

pphysch 5y ago

On a related note, suppose the Fed raises rates to mitigate inflation and indirectly kills thousands of zombie companies, including many SaaS renting the cloud. What happens to their data? Does the cloud unilaterally evict/delete it, or does it get handled like an asset -- auctioned off, etc?

Uehreka 5y ago
> does it get handled like an asset -- auctioned off, etc? Who would buy that? I guess if this happened enough then people would start "data salvager" companies that specialize in going through data they have no schema for looking for a way to sell something of it to someone else. I have to imagine the margins in a business like that would be abysmal, and all the while you'd be in a pretty dark place ethically going through data that users never wanted you to have in the first place. Of course, all these questions are moot because if this happened the GDPR would nuke the cloud provider from orbit.
cmckn 5y ago
I’m not aware of a cloud provider that is contractually allowed to do such a thing (except maybe alibaba by way of the CCP). Dying companies get purchased and have their assets pilfered every day, the same thing would happen with cloud assets.
- bpicolo 5y ago
  If the dead company stops paying the bills, Amazon can definitely delete that.
  - cmckn 5y ago
    Of course, I meant the idea of auctioning it off or otherwise accessing the customer’s data. When I worked in Azure, I accidentally created some internal resources in a personal account. I didn’t have the ability to delete them after I left; the only way to do so was to cancel the credit card and let the grace period expire.

Aeolun 5y ago

If they were already paying 100k per month for their storage, I doubt the additional 100k would severely impact their business. Proven by the fact that they happily went on to pay the bill for the next 6 months.