I think the doom of Google is highly exaggerated. But true that the quality of their primary service has degraded. But I don't even think it is SEO, far more an

I think the doom of Google is highly exaggerated. But true that the quality of their primary service has degraded. But I don't even think it is SEO, far more annoying are "trusted news source". Perhaps they have the best SEO, but I think it is more about being buddies with the press for access. Some effects are outside their influence like Discord becoming prominent for content, which severely limits discoverability. IRC had the same problem, but it was often flanked by forums for specific topics. I get that Discord is convenient, but you have some side effects not many people think about. Especially developers for games would really profit from another platform. Reddit for example has many benefits just because it is discoverable by search engines.