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As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truc

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and how that was endorsed as an exercise in contrast. CHAZ, CHOP, etc.) These workers and people who have to work in meatspace have had their lives impeded for two years now, but because white collar, work-at-home employees are mildly inconvenienced for a week, they're advocating police action against them and calling it an insurrection. I'm proud to endorse this honkery, and I do not mind if it inconveniences some bureaucrats, as my neighborhood in Austin had police helicopters circling overhead for a week, cars set on fire, many buildings along 6th entirely destroyed, all while employees at my company enjoyed and supported the carnage financially.

olivermarks 5y ago
mindslight 5y ago
By spending much of your comment denigrating other protests (presumably on issues that you care less about), you are doing exactly what you claim to be condemning. Try advocating for the specific laudable goals of your own cause rather than putting others down.
- zdragnar 5y ago
  Considering that donations to the truckers were being turned down because the truckers were forming an "occupation", while individuals in the previous occupations (including the aforementioned CHOP and CHAZ) had received funds off the same platform... The composition seems relevant. Especially with all the name calling (that the truckers are forming an insurrection) being done by the same people who either stayed silent on, or actively supported Antifa as they shot explosives into occupied government buildings. The truckers are on strike. Not really any different than any other worker strike, which socialists would normally fall over themselves supporting. The thing is, it seems, they cannot abide people going on strike against what they view as unjust government action.
czzr 5y ago
You live in Austin and donated to support protests in Canada? I’m curious about that - why are you actively getting involved in another country?
- db1234 5y ago
  Why not? Canadian PM expressed support for a protest going on in a foreign country last year which was purely an internal matter of that country.
- jjulius 5y ago
  Not OP (and this shouldn't be considered an endorsement of their donation/views), but it's similar to how someone in Nantucket might've donated to groups protesting police in Minneapolis in summer 2020. It's a cause you believe in and you want those fighting for it to keep going, and you may also want that fight to influence others local to you to get more vocal.
  - Apocryphon 5y ago
    Nantucket and Minneapolis both belong to the same political union. Canada is not yet a constituent member of the United States.
    - jjulius 5y ago
      Absolutely correct, but that doesn't really change the validity of either of the points that I made.
      - fredophile 5y ago
        So you think it's acceptable for citizens in one country to fund political movements in other countries? Would you feel the same way about oligarchs in Russia or China funding political organizations in the US?
        xdennis 5y ago
soared 5y ago
I thought these protests were negatively affecting working class neighborhoods as well by honking horns during the night? I’m not holding a strong opinion on the subject but it’s kind of silly bias to compare this to blm with your phrasing. Blacks have been through much much worse for hundreds of years, so the truckers going through troubling times for 2 years doesn’t really justify the comparison.
- throw_m239339 5y ago
  > I thought these protests were negatively affecting working class neighborhoods as well by honking horns during the night? Truckers aren't burning down neighborhoods or looting small business right now. Yet a good chunk of Americans had no problem with all that US 2 years ago, in the middle of a freaking pandemic. But honking is now where people draw the line? > Blacks have been through much much worse for hundreds of years, so the truckers going through troubling times for 2 years doesn’t really justify the comparison. How is truckers struggles any less valid than any other? cause the people demonstrating are white or something?
  - soared 5y ago
    Uhhh it’s definitely less valid? Truckers are complaining about vaccine passports, blm was complaining about being killed by police officers.
    - throw_m239339 5y ago
    - gruez 5y ago
      >Uhhh it’s definitely less valid? The truckers see vaccine passports as an oppressive government action, and people getting killed by police officers as no big deal. The BLM protesters see police killings as an oppressive government action, and vaccine passports as no big deal. See the issue here? We as a society need standards for behavior that don't just boil down to "if you think it's justified then you can do whatever you want".
peeters 5y ago
If you're going to attack "media mischaracterizations" let's be truthful. > but because white collar, work-at-home employees are mildly inconvenienced for a week, they're advocating police action against them and calling it an insurrection. "Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for shutting down a border crossing that handles $350 million in trade per day. "Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for residents having to put up with medically unsafe volumes of horn honking all throughout the nights. Some had brought train horns and were blaring those. We're "calling it an insurrection" because that is a stated objective of the organizers, to overthrow the elected government of Canada. The fact that this is being encouraged and funded in large part by Americans is frankly, while unsurprising, an overtly hostile act being done to an ally.
- tagoregrtst 5y ago
  Some of us remember the “mostly peaceful” characterization by CNN of the protests in Kenosha. We also remember the blockade of the rail in Canada. We’re also not impressed by the pleas by inconvenienced government bureaucrats who couldn't be bothered to investigate the arson of 40 places of worship in Canada.
- echelon 5y ago
  > We're "calling it an insurrection" because that is a stated objective of the organizers, to overthrow the elected government of Canada. I'm liberal, but the far left jumping to call protests an act of "insurrection" makes me want to warn you that this is an extreme characterization that will only further polarize us. We have to stop this nonsense. It's like when those on the far left call for an end of free speech. The pendulum has swung completely for these folks. It's not a good idea to perpetuate or associate with these leanings. Protests on both sides, while kept nonviolent, are a good and healthy mechanism to diffuse pent up anger, air grievances, and open new channels of dialogue.
  - peeters 5y ago
    You're ignoring what I wrote entirely. We're not calling it an insurrection because it's a protest. We're calling it an insurrection because it's a protest with the express stated goal of overthrowing the democratically elected government.
jeromegv 5y ago
As you are from Austin, you clearly have no idea that this is just more than bureaucrats but actual people live there. Many and have had to move out of their house as they couldn't sleep. This is honking all nights but also intimidating business owners, people walking by with a mask, verbal harassment, etc. This is all documented. The people in those protests are also anti-vaxers, while 90% of the population is vaccinated, so they don't represent the working class. The Qanon "Queen of Canada" and all their crazies are there, harassing health care workers. This is very much the 1% of crazies, the working class is extremely irritated by having their health care workers being harassed.
- tomas_nort 5y ago
good8675309 5y ago
Yeah, well the establishment journalists are doing everything they can to cover for Trudeau. Meanwhile if you really want to be informed you can find tons of livestreams on Youtube from every angle of the protest in Ottawa, 1988 Watchman is good. I've been watching for over a week now and I've seen people helping and feeding each other. Filling the food banks, food banks are declining food donations now. Cleaning the streets. People dancing and singing, kids playing hockey in the streets. It's a big festival and a lot of people are showing up to celebrate and come together. It's inspiring in a time when people are so divided to see joyful people having fun.
gruez 5y ago
> As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Find targets to cancel. ie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich#Appointment_to_CEO_and_resignation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich#Appointment_to_CE...
rwj 5y ago
I don't mind if it inconvenience the government, but they have severely impacted residential neighbourhoods as well. Others in the movement have blocked commercial traffic across the border, putting people jobs at risk. Ironically, I think these higher pressure activities will back fire. They could probably find a lot of support for easing restrictions, but destroying people's homes and jobs is not going to make or keep friends.
- good8675309 5y ago
  They are leaving or have already left the residential areas: https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-mayor-says-truckers-have-agreed-to-leave-residential-neighbourhoods-1.5779428 https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-mayor-says-truckers-have-ag...
- _-david-_ 5y ago
  You believe the same thing about BLM right? They took over residential areas and blocked commercial traffic from coming. Look at Chop/Chaz.
  - rwj 5y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
nverno 5y ago
It's not just a run of the mill worker's strike, though, it's tactically ingenious- they were able to put huge pressure on people very quickly without ever needing to get violent or aggressive. Good for them.
- rpmisms 5y ago
  They're simply seizing the means of transportation, and reminding the government that the economy is dependent on them.
  - sudosysgen 5y ago
    Yeah they failed massively at that. There were a few hundred trucks out of around 300,000, and they got denounced by their own unions. Basically the only thing they will do is inconvenience the government who doesn't want to look bad by removing them forcefully.
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annexrichmond 5y ago
Yeah I found it to be tone deaf when my supposedly progressive software eng colleagues would share videos of lockdown protestors on IG saying F you idiots, as they work their cushy job. A lot of these people were protesting because they want to work, and not be dependent on government handouts.
- msie 5y ago
  The truckers were given TWO YEARS to get the jab and they refused to. They only need the jab if they are going into the United States and returning. They can do trucking within Canada without a jab. Also, the United States has imposed a similar mandate on truckers entering the US but I don't see the convoy protest that. 90% of truckers are vaccinated BTW. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/unvaccinated-canadian-truckers-will-have-to-quarantine-under-new-mandate-feds-say-1.5738185 https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/unvaccinated-canad...
tagoregrtst 5y ago
What to fear? Some lunatic calling an employer and citing Trudeau to say the donor supports homophobe racists. Its happened with other leaked lists. Another problem is that, if the Canadian government tightens the screws, the donation might be deemed material support for crime. BS, but I wouldn't trust the Canadian judiciary.
JKCalhoun 5y ago
GiveSendGo appears to be a Christian crowdfunding platform. Maybe it's nuanced but I am unable to see a Christian connection to the mask mandates or whatever the truckers are protesting.
- synthos 5y ago
  It's especially ironic when they argue "their body their choice" w.r.t. vaccines. Then when asked about abortion only the most rational ones will see the parallel.
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- hammock 5y ago
  Might be a good idea to learn what they are protesting, before trying to draw connections between what they are protesting and other things like religion.
  - JKCalhoun 5y ago
    I hoped someone would enlighten me. From the headlines I've read it appeared to be about mask mandates.
    - xemc 5y ago
      It's more about vaccine mandates, but yeah mask mandate (all mandates) in general. Including specifically for the truckers recent laws that effectively boil down to: either you get vaccinated, and show proof of it, or you lose your job.
smrtinsert 5y ago
12bits 5y ago
cycomanic 5y ago
Considering that you live in Austin how do you know the exact nature of the protests? Have you visited? Or is this what you read/saw in media? It's also interesting how you contrast this to the BLM protests. I'm not sure how long a BLM protest would have been allowed to block a major traffic artery worth the 100s of million $ per day?
- hammock 5y ago
  >arson, vandalism, and looting between May 26 and June 8 were tabulated to have caused $1–2 billion in insured damages nationally—the highest recorded damage from civil disorder in U.S. history, surpassing the record set during the 1992 Los Angeles riots. "$1-2 billion" from the George Floyd protests is between $70 million and $140 million a day, for 14 days. So that data might help you triangulate an answer to your question of "how long." Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests#:~:text=Nevertheless%2C%20arson%2C%20vandalism%2C%20and,the%201992%20Los%20Angeles%20riots https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests#:~:tex....
newobj 5y ago
Mischaracterizing CHOP while critiquing a mischaracterization of CHOP. The head truly spins
whatshisface 5y ago
Is this about vaccines or worker's rights?
- monkeybutton 5y ago
  Its about the fringe right being angry.
  - whatshisface 5y ago
    Maybe, but angry about vaccines or worker's rights? :-)
    - monkeybutton 5y ago
      Angry about sience! https://preview.redd.it/pj9zbnm03gh81.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=601e86d078a1bd778998bf3b23f805552cfabb43 https://preview.redd.it/pj9zbnm03gh81.jpg?width=640&crop=sma...
      - whatshisface 5y ago
        "Crazy people make trouble for no good reason" is almost too hard to believe, are you sure there's nothing they want in particular?
        analog31 5y ago
        What do they want? Do we know? Is there a document we can point to, that we know expresses the grievances of the protesters? Of a majority of protesters? Of their supporters?
- g8oz 5y ago
  - Health care workers in Ottawa had to be advised not too wear work wear in the streets to avoid harassment and assault. - The Canadian Trucking Alliance have stated that between 85 and 90 per cent of truckers are already vaccinated. - 65% of Canadians think the Freedom Convoy represents a small minority of selfish Canadians. (Leger poll) - Hate groups spotted among the protesters include the Soldiers of Odin, Three Percenters and followers of the Soltrean hypothesis. I'm sure there are some very fine people among them as well. - Prominent among the organizers are advocates of the "white genocide" theory.
davewritescode 5y ago
BLM protestors were routinely arrested, beaten and teargassed on live TV for everyone to watch. Donating directly to a mob causing havoc thousands of miles away from you because you're annoyed that your coworkers did the same is why this country and frankly the western world is so entirely broken. This is a wonderful example of the politics of spite in action. Making the world a better place has gone out the window, it's simply about making the world a worse place for people you don't like Harassing people wearing masks and minding their own business and stealing from foodbanks because restaurants refuse to serve protestors isn't exactly peaceful. Where does this end? Is it ok for me to pay homeless people to stand outside your house with a rifle and scream at your house all night?
- tagoregrtst 5y ago
  No they weren’t! People protesting BLM didnt get scratched as America got together to condemn police brutality. Antifa, who highjacked the protests and torched cities, got arrested. But most were released by sympathetic DAs. In fairness the BLM organizers are getting arrested. For fraud.
  - davewritescode 5y ago
    I don't want to get political here, that's not my intention but this even was 100% peaceful protestors who just happened to be somewhere the President wanted to go were gassed for no reason. https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867532070/trumps-unannounced-church-visit-angers-church-officials https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867532070/trumps-unannounced-...
    - tagoregrtst 5y ago
      No worries, your cool. But it didnt happen (i mean they did get gassed, but not because of trump) https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/09/park-police-lafayette-square/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/09/park-police... Note the source (WaPo is anti trump) and year (after the 2020 dust settled) This based on an investigation done by the Biden admin. One of the casualties of our 24 hr media cycle is that in the orgy of current news we don't pay attention to the follow up.
sleepingadmin 5y ago
>As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. No different than any other cancel culture etc. >Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. This is very important I learnt this weekend. Not to be glossed over. Trudeau himself attacked the convoy as fringe minority, racists, sexists, and white supremacists. The 'government accredited' media was very fast to show the nazi flag and confederate flags. Conveniently very expensive professional camera gear right there to take pictures. Yet the real media went around showing that the group is pretty diverse. https://notthebee.com/article/come-and-laugh-with-me-at-the-npc-wokies-who-are-saying-the-canadian-trucker-convoy-is-about-white-supremacy-/ https://notthebee.com/article/come-and-laugh-with-me-at-the-... So what gives? Well what happened? Antivaxxers are unemployed? But who are the antivaxxers? ~50% of black canadians are unwilling to get vaccinated. ~25% of arabic and indian canadians are unwilling. When the average is ~85%. It means whites are above 85%. I didn't know this. It means Trudeau and the 'government accredited' media who rushed out this narrative that they are white supremacists in fact knew they were disproportionally harming not-whites. That to label this convoy as white supremacist might discourage not-whites from joining. This 1 nazi flag has to be a journalist because the convoy is certainly not white supremacist. At what point does the 'government accredited' media who pushed this white supremacist narrative get labelled government propaganda?
altcognito 5y ago
> As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. > as my neighborhood in Austin had police helicopters Well, they certainly accomplished one goal: Out foreign donations.
talentedcoin 5y ago
Please, stick to messing up your own country, and leave Canada alone.
barbazoo 5y ago
You don't know what you're talking about in terms of negative impact these illegal blockades of the borders have on the economy.

olivermarks 5y ago

mindslight 5y ago

By spending much of your comment denigrating other protests (presumably on issues that you care less about), you are doing exactly what you claim to be condemning. Try advocating for the specific laudable goals of your own cause rather than putting others down.

zdragnar 5y ago
Considering that donations to the truckers were being turned down because the truckers were forming an "occupation", while individuals in the previous occupations (including the aforementioned CHOP and CHAZ) had received funds off the same platform... The composition seems relevant. Especially with all the name calling (that the truckers are forming an insurrection) being done by the same people who either stayed silent on, or actively supported Antifa as they shot explosives into occupied government buildings. The truckers are on strike. Not really any different than any other worker strike, which socialists would normally fall over themselves supporting. The thing is, it seems, they cannot abide people going on strike against what they view as unjust government action.

czzr 5y ago

You live in Austin and donated to support protests in Canada? I’m curious about that - why are you actively getting involved in another country?

db1234 5y ago
Why not? Canadian PM expressed support for a protest going on in a foreign country last year which was purely an internal matter of that country.
jjulius 5y ago
Not OP (and this shouldn't be considered an endorsement of their donation/views), but it's similar to how someone in Nantucket might've donated to groups protesting police in Minneapolis in summer 2020. It's a cause you believe in and you want those fighting for it to keep going, and you may also want that fight to influence others local to you to get more vocal.
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  Nantucket and Minneapolis both belong to the same political union. Canada is not yet a constituent member of the United States.
  - jjulius 5y ago
    Absolutely correct, but that doesn't really change the validity of either of the points that I made.
    - fredophile 5y ago
      So you think it's acceptable for citizens in one country to fund political movements in other countries? Would you feel the same way about oligarchs in Russia or China funding political organizations in the US?
      - xdennis 5y ago

soared 5y ago

I thought these protests were negatively affecting working class neighborhoods as well by honking horns during the night? I’m not holding a strong opinion on the subject but it’s kind of silly bias to compare this to blm with your phrasing. Blacks have been through much much worse for hundreds of years, so the truckers going through troubling times for 2 years doesn’t really justify the comparison.

throw_m239339 5y ago
> I thought these protests were negatively affecting working class neighborhoods as well by honking horns during the night? Truckers aren't burning down neighborhoods or looting small business right now. Yet a good chunk of Americans had no problem with all that US 2 years ago, in the middle of a freaking pandemic. But honking is now where people draw the line? > Blacks have been through much much worse for hundreds of years, so the truckers going through troubling times for 2 years doesn’t really justify the comparison. How is truckers struggles any less valid than any other? cause the people demonstrating are white or something?
- soared 5y ago
  Uhhh it’s definitely less valid? Truckers are complaining about vaccine passports, blm was complaining about being killed by police officers.
  - throw_m239339 5y ago
  - gruez 5y ago
    >Uhhh it’s definitely less valid? The truckers see vaccine passports as an oppressive government action, and people getting killed by police officers as no big deal. The BLM protesters see police killings as an oppressive government action, and vaccine passports as no big deal. See the issue here? We as a society need standards for behavior that don't just boil down to "if you think it's justified then you can do whatever you want".

peeters 5y ago

If you're going to attack "media mischaracterizations" let's be truthful. > but because white collar, work-at-home employees are mildly inconvenienced for a week, they're advocating police action against them and calling it an insurrection. "Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for shutting down a border crossing that handles $350 million in trade per day. "Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for residents having to put up with medically unsafe volumes of horn honking all throughout the nights. Some had brought train horns and were blaring those. We're "calling it an insurrection" because that is a stated objective of the organizers, to overthrow the elected government of Canada. The fact that this is being encouraged and funded in large part by Americans is frankly, while unsurprising, an overtly hostile act being done to an ally.

tagoregrtst 5y ago
Some of us remember the “mostly peaceful” characterization by CNN of the protests in Kenosha. We also remember the blockade of the rail in Canada. We’re also not impressed by the pleas by inconvenienced government bureaucrats who couldn't be bothered to investigate the arson of 40 places of worship in Canada.
echelon 5y ago
> We're "calling it an insurrection" because that is a stated objective of the organizers, to overthrow the elected government of Canada. I'm liberal, but the far left jumping to call protests an act of "insurrection" makes me want to warn you that this is an extreme characterization that will only further polarize us. We have to stop this nonsense. It's like when those on the far left call for an end of free speech. The pendulum has swung completely for these folks. It's not a good idea to perpetuate or associate with these leanings. Protests on both sides, while kept nonviolent, are a good and healthy mechanism to diffuse pent up anger, air grievances, and open new channels of dialogue.
- peeters 5y ago
  You're ignoring what I wrote entirely. We're not calling it an insurrection because it's a protest. We're calling it an insurrection because it's a protest with the express stated goal of overthrowing the democratically elected government.

jeromegv 5y ago

As you are from Austin, you clearly have no idea that this is just more than bureaucrats but actual people live there. Many and have had to move out of their house as they couldn't sleep. This is honking all nights but also intimidating business owners, people walking by with a mask, verbal harassment, etc. This is all documented. The people in those protests are also anti-vaxers, while 90% of the population is vaccinated, so they don't represent the working class. The Qanon "Queen of Canada" and all their crazies are there, harassing health care workers. This is very much the 1% of crazies, the working class is extremely irritated by having their health care workers being harassed.

tomas_nort 5y ago

good8675309 5y ago

Yeah, well the establishment journalists are doing everything they can to cover for Trudeau. Meanwhile if you really want to be informed you can find tons of livestreams on Youtube from every angle of the protest in Ottawa, 1988 Watchman is good. I've been watching for over a week now and I've seen people helping and feeding each other. Filling the food banks, food banks are declining food donations now. Cleaning the streets. People dancing and singing, kids playing hockey in the streets. It's a big festival and a lot of people are showing up to celebrate and come together. It's inspiring in a time when people are so divided to see joyful people having fun.

gruez 5y ago

> As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Find targets to cancel. ie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich#Appointment_to_CEO_and_resignation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich#Appointment_to_CE...

rwj 5y ago

I don't mind if it inconvenience the government, but they have severely impacted residential neighbourhoods as well. Others in the movement have blocked commercial traffic across the border, putting people jobs at risk. Ironically, I think these higher pressure activities will back fire. They could probably find a lot of support for easing restrictions, but destroying people's homes and jobs is not going to make or keep friends.

good8675309 5y ago
They are leaving or have already left the residential areas: https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-mayor-says-truckers-have-agreed-to-leave-residential-neighbourhoods-1.5779428 https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-mayor-says-truckers-have-ag...
_-david-_ 5y ago
You believe the same thing about BLM right? They took over residential areas and blocked commercial traffic from coming. Look at Chop/Chaz.
- rwj 5y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

nverno 5y ago

It's not just a run of the mill worker's strike, though, it's tactically ingenious- they were able to put huge pressure on people very quickly without ever needing to get violent or aggressive. Good for them.

rpmisms 5y ago
They're simply seizing the means of transportation, and reminding the government that the economy is dependent on them.
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  Yeah they failed massively at that. There were a few hundred trucks out of around 300,000, and they got denounced by their own unions. Basically the only thing they will do is inconvenience the government who doesn't want to look bad by removing them forcefully.
- deleted 5y ago
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annexrichmond 5y ago

Yeah I found it to be tone deaf when my supposedly progressive software eng colleagues would share videos of lockdown protestors on IG saying F you idiots, as they work their cushy job. A lot of these people were protesting because they want to work, and not be dependent on government handouts.

msie 5y ago
The truckers were given TWO YEARS to get the jab and they refused to. They only need the jab if they are going into the United States and returning. They can do trucking within Canada without a jab. Also, the United States has imposed a similar mandate on truckers entering the US but I don't see the convoy protest that. 90% of truckers are vaccinated BTW. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/unvaccinated-canadian-truckers-will-have-to-quarantine-under-new-mandate-feds-say-1.5738185 https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/unvaccinated-canad...

tagoregrtst 5y ago

What to fear? Some lunatic calling an employer and citing Trudeau to say the donor supports homophobe racists. Its happened with other leaked lists. Another problem is that, if the Canadian government tightens the screws, the donation might be deemed material support for crime. BS, but I wouldn't trust the Canadian judiciary.

JKCalhoun 5y ago

GiveSendGo appears to be a Christian crowdfunding platform. Maybe it's nuanced but I am unable to see a Christian connection to the mask mandates or whatever the truckers are protesting.

synthos 5y ago
It's especially ironic when they argue "their body their choice" w.r.t. vaccines. Then when asked about abortion only the most rational ones will see the parallel.
- xemc 5y ago
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hammock 5y ago
Might be a good idea to learn what they are protesting, before trying to draw connections between what they are protesting and other things like religion.
- JKCalhoun 5y ago
  I hoped someone would enlighten me. From the headlines I've read it appeared to be about mask mandates.
  - xemc 5y ago
    It's more about vaccine mandates, but yeah mask mandate (all mandates) in general. Including specifically for the truckers recent laws that effectively boil down to: either you get vaccinated, and show proof of it, or you lose your job.

smrtinsert 5y ago

12bits 5y ago

cycomanic 5y ago

Considering that you live in Austin how do you know the exact nature of the protests? Have you visited? Or is this what you read/saw in media? It's also interesting how you contrast this to the BLM protests. I'm not sure how long a BLM protest would have been allowed to block a major traffic artery worth the 100s of million $ per day?

hammock 5y ago
>arson, vandalism, and looting between May 26 and June 8 were tabulated to have caused $1–2 billion in insured damages nationally—the highest recorded damage from civil disorder in U.S. history, surpassing the record set during the 1992 Los Angeles riots. "$1-2 billion" from the George Floyd protests is between $70 million and $140 million a day, for 14 days. So that data might help you triangulate an answer to your question of "how long." Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests#:~:text=Nevertheless%2C%20arson%2C%20vandalism%2C%20and,the%201992%20Los%20Angeles%20riots https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests#:~:tex....

newobj 5y ago

Mischaracterizing CHOP while critiquing a mischaracterization of CHOP. The head truly spins

whatshisface 5y ago

Is this about vaccines or worker's rights?

monkeybutton 5y ago
Its about the fringe right being angry.
- whatshisface 5y ago
  Maybe, but angry about vaccines or worker's rights? :-)
  - monkeybutton 5y ago
    Angry about sience! https://preview.redd.it/pj9zbnm03gh81.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=601e86d078a1bd778998bf3b23f805552cfabb43 https://preview.redd.it/pj9zbnm03gh81.jpg?width=640&crop=sma...
    - whatshisface 5y ago
      "Crazy people make trouble for no good reason" is almost too hard to believe, are you sure there's nothing they want in particular?
      - analog31 5y ago
        What do they want? Do we know? Is there a document we can point to, that we know expresses the grievances of the protesters? Of a majority of protesters? Of their supporters?
g8oz 5y ago
- Health care workers in Ottawa had to be advised not too wear work wear in the streets to avoid harassment and assault. - The Canadian Trucking Alliance have stated that between 85 and 90 per cent of truckers are already vaccinated. - 65% of Canadians think the Freedom Convoy represents a small minority of selfish Canadians. (Leger poll) - Hate groups spotted among the protesters include the Soldiers of Odin, Three Percenters and followers of the Soltrean hypothesis. I'm sure there are some very fine people among them as well. - Prominent among the organizers are advocates of the "white genocide" theory.

davewritescode 5y ago

BLM protestors were routinely arrested, beaten and teargassed on live TV for everyone to watch. Donating directly to a mob causing havoc thousands of miles away from you because you're annoyed that your coworkers did the same is why this country and frankly the western world is so entirely broken. This is a wonderful example of the politics of spite in action. Making the world a better place has gone out the window, it's simply about making the world a worse place for people you don't like Harassing people wearing masks and minding their own business and stealing from foodbanks because restaurants refuse to serve protestors isn't exactly peaceful. Where does this end? Is it ok for me to pay homeless people to stand outside your house with a rifle and scream at your house all night?

tagoregrtst 5y ago
No they weren’t! People protesting BLM didnt get scratched as America got together to condemn police brutality. Antifa, who highjacked the protests and torched cities, got arrested. But most were released by sympathetic DAs. In fairness the BLM organizers are getting arrested. For fraud.
- davewritescode 5y ago
  I don't want to get political here, that's not my intention but this even was 100% peaceful protestors who just happened to be somewhere the President wanted to go were gassed for no reason. https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867532070/trumps-unannounced-church-visit-angers-church-officials https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867532070/trumps-unannounced-...
  - tagoregrtst 5y ago
    No worries, your cool. But it didnt happen (i mean they did get gassed, but not because of trump) https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/09/park-police-lafayette-square/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/09/park-police... Note the source (WaPo is anti trump) and year (after the 2020 dust settled) This based on an investigation done by the Biden admin. One of the casualties of our 24 hr media cycle is that in the orgy of current news we don't pay attention to the follow up.

sleepingadmin 5y ago

>As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. No different than any other cancel culture etc. >Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. This is very important I learnt this weekend. Not to be glossed over. Trudeau himself attacked the convoy as fringe minority, racists, sexists, and white supremacists. The 'government accredited' media was very fast to show the nazi flag and confederate flags. Conveniently very expensive professional camera gear right there to take pictures. Yet the real media went around showing that the group is pretty diverse. https://notthebee.com/article/come-and-laugh-with-me-at-the-npc-wokies-who-are-saying-the-canadian-trucker-convoy-is-about-white-supremacy-/ https://notthebee.com/article/come-and-laugh-with-me-at-the-... So what gives? Well what happened? Antivaxxers are unemployed? But who are the antivaxxers? ~50% of black canadians are unwilling to get vaccinated. ~25% of arabic and indian canadians are unwilling. When the average is ~85%. It means whites are above 85%. I didn't know this. It means Trudeau and the 'government accredited' media who rushed out this narrative that they are white supremacists in fact knew they were disproportionally harming not-whites. That to label this convoy as white supremacist might discourage not-whites from joining. This 1 nazi flag has to be a journalist because the convoy is certainly not white supremacist. At what point does the 'government accredited' media who pushed this white supremacist narrative get labelled government propaganda?

altcognito 5y ago

> As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. > as my neighborhood in Austin had police helicopters Well, they certainly accomplished one goal: Out foreign donations.

talentedcoin 5y ago

Please, stick to messing up your own country, and leave Canada alone.

barbazoo 5y ago

You don't know what you're talking about in terms of negative impact these illegal blockades of the borders have on the economy.