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Can’t read what he says as I was blocked years ago. I had expressed the mildest degree of cynicism one can possibly express in response to a straight up lie.

by LeonB 5y ago

paulpauper 5y ago
incognito mode
- rkagerer 5y ago
  Not the op, I don't have any bans, and I'm not normally signed in to Twitter. But a side note on UX here... When I land on this tweet the site takes long enough to annoy me before it loads the content (ie. everything below the "Log In / Sign Up" banner is delayed). When I scroll down past the first few tweets the whole page disappears and is replaced with a nag screen implying I can't see more without signing up and/or downloading the app. Pressing back once bumps me right out of the whole site (back to HN). The behavior is non-deterministic. It worked this way the first few tries (with varying quantities of tweets loaded before the nag screen took over). Then I tried in Incognito mode and it worked, and after that going back to the site without Incognito seemed to fare better (did Twitter finally figure out I don't want to download their app?) Seriously disheartened the majority puts up with this kind of horrible UX. As a content publisher, I don't want readers encountering friction preventing them from digesting my thoughts. As a consumer I want to see the content without hassles. The only party benefitted by their dark pattern is the platform. Not putting users first = opportunity for someone else to do it better and eventually displace your business. I used to respect Twitter engineers and was under the impression they cared about things like load times and user experience. Has the culture changed? Am I just getting old and grumpy?
  - marklubi 5y ago
    What Twitter has been doing with blocking access without an account has reached the levels of being user hostile. It's like they're following the awful pinterest model. I find the URL that they call just before they block access to be interesting: https://twitter.com/i/api/1.1/onboarding/fatigue.json https://twitter.com/i/api/1.1/onboarding/fatigue.json Onboarding Fatigue
  - Destiner 5y ago
gdsimoes 5y ago
Do you mind giving more details?
- LeonB 5y ago
  Not something I’m going to dig into, sorry. People have every right to block others, without giving any explanation and I support that side of it completely. It stood out from my pov because there’s very very few times I’ve noticed I’m blocked and I don’t generally mean to cause any offence. The most I would’ve been intending to cause was a little introspection.
  - vertis 5y ago
    You could probably just ask in some way (email maybe) to become unblocked. It's really easy to feel like you're under attack constantly with that many followers so I'm not surprised any of them go heavy on the blocking.
    - LeonB 5y ago
      I wasn’t following him and don’t mind about that. I think people have every right to block people without that person reaching out on other ways — I’ve seen people demanding explanations etc and in those cases as in this case, you know why.
  - dfabulich 5y ago
    Then why did you bring this up?
    - LeonB 5y ago
      As a cautionary tale to others, in case they don’t want to be blocked by him, it might make them pause and consider before putting into writing any extremely mild criticism, on Twitter.
  - timcederman 5y ago
    > there’s very very few times I’ve noticed I’m blocked Is that a normal thing, to be blocked more than once on Twitter?
ant6n 5y ago
A lot of people are very sensitive to cynicism. It's easy to burn Bridges this way. I think it's kind of sad.
- LeonB 5y ago
  He’d burnt the bridges himself long ago. I was already aware, from things he’d said about me, that he was not a person I would ever do business with.
- mhh__ 5y ago
  Ricky Gervais is reasonably well known for blocking people who criticize his work / attitude (by which I mean people who think he's a bad writer rather than blaspheming). He says he wants to be cancelled, but if he ever was he'd be making a teary apology within seconds.
iamsanteri 5y ago
I just logged in since ages to my twitter account and replied: “Wow you are trendy and cool Paul! Thank you for sharing…” [1] I hope its not too much covered cynicism for him.. This is exactly the kind of stuff that degrades social media and particularly twitter. Just tweet something “smart”, “insigthful” and “prophetic”. Ohh, much wow (doge meme). Like someone here on this HN thread wrote, now the peasants are debating what the prophet said! Ehh… will go have breakfast. https://twitter.com/iamsanteri/status/1492779569102966788?s=20&t=XrDAUY-E61ifbxlQu5_HLw https://twitter.com/iamsanteri/status/1492779569102966788?s=...

Can’t read what he says as I was blocked years ago. I had expressed the mildest degree of cynicism one can possibly express in response to a straight up lie.

by LeonB 5y ago

Can’t read what he says as I was blocked years ago. I had expressed the mildest degree of cynicism one can possibly express in response to a straight up lie.

paulpauper 5y ago

incognito mode

rkagerer 5y ago
Not the op, I don't have any bans, and I'm not normally signed in to Twitter. But a side note on UX here... When I land on this tweet the site takes long enough to annoy me before it loads the content (ie. everything below the "Log In / Sign Up" banner is delayed). When I scroll down past the first few tweets the whole page disappears and is replaced with a nag screen implying I can't see more without signing up and/or downloading the app. Pressing back once bumps me right out of the whole site (back to HN). The behavior is non-deterministic. It worked this way the first few tries (with varying quantities of tweets loaded before the nag screen took over). Then I tried in Incognito mode and it worked, and after that going back to the site without Incognito seemed to fare better (did Twitter finally figure out I don't want to download their app?) Seriously disheartened the majority puts up with this kind of horrible UX. As a content publisher, I don't want readers encountering friction preventing them from digesting my thoughts. As a consumer I want to see the content without hassles. The only party benefitted by their dark pattern is the platform. Not putting users first = opportunity for someone else to do it better and eventually displace your business. I used to respect Twitter engineers and was under the impression they cared about things like load times and user experience. Has the culture changed? Am I just getting old and grumpy?
- marklubi 5y ago
  What Twitter has been doing with blocking access without an account has reached the levels of being user hostile. It's like they're following the awful pinterest model. I find the URL that they call just before they block access to be interesting: https://twitter.com/i/api/1.1/onboarding/fatigue.json https://twitter.com/i/api/1.1/onboarding/fatigue.json Onboarding Fatigue
- Destiner 5y ago

gdsimoes 5y ago

Do you mind giving more details?

LeonB 5y ago
Not something I’m going to dig into, sorry. People have every right to block others, without giving any explanation and I support that side of it completely. It stood out from my pov because there’s very very few times I’ve noticed I’m blocked and I don’t generally mean to cause any offence. The most I would’ve been intending to cause was a little introspection.
- vertis 5y ago
  You could probably just ask in some way (email maybe) to become unblocked. It's really easy to feel like you're under attack constantly with that many followers so I'm not surprised any of them go heavy on the blocking.
  - LeonB 5y ago
    I wasn’t following him and don’t mind about that. I think people have every right to block people without that person reaching out on other ways — I’ve seen people demanding explanations etc and in those cases as in this case, you know why.
- dfabulich 5y ago
  Then why did you bring this up?
  - LeonB 5y ago
    As a cautionary tale to others, in case they don’t want to be blocked by him, it might make them pause and consider before putting into writing any extremely mild criticism, on Twitter.
- timcederman 5y ago
  > there’s very very few times I’ve noticed I’m blocked Is that a normal thing, to be blocked more than once on Twitter?

ant6n 5y ago

A lot of people are very sensitive to cynicism. It's easy to burn Bridges this way. I think it's kind of sad.

LeonB 5y ago
He’d burnt the bridges himself long ago. I was already aware, from things he’d said about me, that he was not a person I would ever do business with.
mhh__ 5y ago
Ricky Gervais is reasonably well known for blocking people who criticize his work / attitude (by which I mean people who think he's a bad writer rather than blaspheming). He says he wants to be cancelled, but if he ever was he'd be making a teary apology within seconds.

iamsanteri 5y ago

I just logged in since ages to my twitter account and replied: “Wow you are trendy and cool Paul! Thank you for sharing…” [1] I hope its not too much covered cynicism for him.. This is exactly the kind of stuff that degrades social media and particularly twitter. Just tweet something “smart”, “insigthful” and “prophetic”. Ohh, much wow (doge meme). Like someone here on this HN thread wrote, now the peasants are debating what the prophet said! Ehh… will go have breakfast. https://twitter.com/iamsanteri/status/1492779569102966788?s=20&t=XrDAUY-E61ifbxlQu5_HLw https://twitter.com/iamsanteri/status/1492779569102966788?s=...