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This is maybe what UTM uses in the latest releases to virtualize macOS on ARM64? Works very well for me so far. https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/releases https://g

by 0x0 5y ago

This is maybe what UTM uses in the latest releases to virtualize macOS on ARM64? Works very well for me so far. https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/releases https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/releases

thoughtsimple 5y ago
Can you use iCloud?
- saagarjha 5y ago
  No.
  - ferw 5y ago
    Is there any reason why it's impossible to use iCloud or any Apple sign in? I can't find anything in UTM documentation.
musicale 5y ago
UTM appears to be based on qemu, and it has full emulation capabilities. edit: in addition to native virtualization, as noted below
- 0x6A75616E 5y ago
  Under "Additional macOS features": - Hardware accelerated virtualization using Hypervisor.framework and QEMU - Boot macOS guests with Virtualization.framework on macOS 12+ So, it does use Virtualization.framework for macOS guests.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
  - musicale 5y ago
    Indeed. Note that qemu has support various native virtualization platforms including kvm, macOS' hypervisor framework, and Windows hypervisor. I'm not sure whether qemu supports M1 macOS out of the box (though it does seem to support ARM Linux and Windows) though, so perhaps that's an added feature from UTM.
    - pitterpatter 5y ago
      Support for using Hypervisor.framework on M1 Macs was added in 6.2: https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/6.2#Arm https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/6.2#Arm >On macOS hosts with Apple Silicon CPUs we now support the 'hvf' accelerator for running AArch64 guests
      - musicale 5y ago
        nice
- tkiolp4 5y ago
  Qemu doesn’t support vmnet (so you cannot have host-only and bridge network modes using Mac hosts)
  - sigjuice 5y ago
    https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/releases/tag/v2.2.4 https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/releases/tag/v2.2.4 (macOS 11.3+ Only) Bridged networking and shared networking support.
willswire 5y ago
Love me some UTM. I use it to virtualize the ARM version of Kali. Works flawlessly on M1 MacBook Air!
cyberge99 5y ago
If you’re looking for a lighter weight vm (microvm almost), check out lima and colima.
- solarkraft 5y ago
  Big +1 for lima. It's basically WSL2 for macOS.
- cpach 5y ago
  It’s not clear to me what colima[0] adds to lima[1]. Does anyone know? [0] https://github.com/abiosoft/colima https://github.com/abiosoft/colima [1] https://github.com/lima-vm/lima https://github.com/lima-vm/lima

by 0x0 5y ago

This is maybe what UTM uses in the latest releases to virtualize macOS on ARM64? Works very well for me so far. https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/releases https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/releases

thoughtsimple 5y ago

Can you use iCloud?

saagarjha 5y ago
No.
- ferw 5y ago
  Is there any reason why it's impossible to use iCloud or any Apple sign in? I can't find anything in UTM documentation.

musicale 5y ago

UTM appears to be based on qemu, and it has full emulation capabilities. edit: in addition to native virtualization, as noted below

0x6A75616E 5y ago
Under "Additional macOS features": - Hardware accelerated virtualization using Hypervisor.framework and QEMU - Boot macOS guests with Virtualization.framework on macOS 12+ So, it does use Virtualization.framework for macOS guests.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- musicale 5y ago
  Indeed. Note that qemu has support various native virtualization platforms including kvm, macOS' hypervisor framework, and Windows hypervisor. I'm not sure whether qemu supports M1 macOS out of the box (though it does seem to support ARM Linux and Windows) though, so perhaps that's an added feature from UTM.
  - pitterpatter 5y ago
    Support for using Hypervisor.framework on M1 Macs was added in 6.2: https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/6.2#Arm https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/6.2#Arm >On macOS hosts with Apple Silicon CPUs we now support the 'hvf' accelerator for running AArch64 guests
    - musicale 5y ago
      nice
tkiolp4 5y ago
Qemu doesn’t support vmnet (so you cannot have host-only and bridge network modes using Mac hosts)
- sigjuice 5y ago
  https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/releases/tag/v2.2.4 https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/releases/tag/v2.2.4 (macOS 11.3+ Only) Bridged networking and shared networking support.

willswire 5y ago

Love me some UTM. I use it to virtualize the ARM version of Kali. Works flawlessly on M1 MacBook Air!

cyberge99 5y ago

If you’re looking for a lighter weight vm (microvm almost), check out lima and colima.

solarkraft 5y ago
Big +1 for lima. It's basically WSL2 for macOS.
cpach 5y ago
It’s not clear to me what colima[0] adds to lima[1]. Does anyone know? [0] https://github.com/abiosoft/colima https://github.com/abiosoft/colima [1] https://github.com/lima-vm/lima https://github.com/lima-vm/lima