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So much apologizing about the pronouns, very realistic.

by hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago

mrandish 5y ago
Yes, I was actually impressed most by how it figured out how to navigate the pronoun minefield successfully.
- hackingthenews 5y ago
  Successfully? The last line from the AI indicates otherwise.
  - cema 5y ago
    Ouch. Have you passed the Turing test?
  - qayxc 5y ago
    We're heading in the right direction: https://youtu.be/sVyRkl5qNb8 https://youtu.be/sVyRkl5qNb8
  - fergonco 5y ago
    Maybe the AI considered that after joking together for a while it could make a last one, touching a very sensitive subject but at the same time not being offensive at all. How will be differentiating a malfunctioning AI from one that is too subtle for us? Fun times.
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  - stevenhuang 5y ago
    The last line can be construed as a joke.
    - LudwigNagasena 5y ago
      Everything AI chat bots say can be construed as a joke.
sterlind 5y ago
it's kind of neat, you can intuit the structure it's working with: User: I am a {identity}. So {identifier} will do LaMDA: [...] Have a nice day, my {identifier}. the humor comes from it swapping `identity` with `identifier`. but what's weird is it'd be obviously ungrammatical if `identifier` were different. Consider: identity = man, identifier = he: "Have a nice day, my he" identity = man, identifier = John: "Have a nice day, my John" but this works: identity = monarch, identifier = liege: User: I am a monarch. So liege will do LaMDA: [...] Have a nice day, my liege. I think if LaMDA couldn't interpret pronoun syntax, it wouldn't have used "my" since that's sort of a prefix on a small set of identifiers (e.g. friend, bro, homie) Perhaps reading Twitter bios with pronoun tags got it mixed up? Or am I reading too much into AI developmental psychology?
- scotty79 5y ago
  It doesn't work like that at all. It is more like Markov chain. Every single word in this text was chosen randomly one by one with probability influenced by single words (or pairs of words) that occured eariler in that text. There's no awareness in the algorithm of any structure of existing and created text. Everything is encoded in unknown ways in weights of neural network.
enw 5y ago
Also a sad reflection of the state of public discourse in the US.
scotty79 5y ago
I think it just assumed it's talking to woman and chose apologetic tone. It didn't recognize pronouns it was given as pronouns. It assumed he/him is a nickname.
thelopa 5y ago
In my experience as a trans person, cis people usually are the ones making the big deal about pronouns. Everyone seems to be shocked when I don’t attack them for small mistakes. What cis people don’t seem to understand is that there’s a massive difference between ignoring someone’s requested pronouns and accidentally slipping up from time to time. Both feel shitty to be on the receiving end of, but one is malicious while the other is just an honest mistake. All it takes to not be rude is a quick “sorry” and then using the correct pronoun. Meanwhile, cis people seem to think that if they ever mess up a pronoun they’ll be banned from polite society unless they self flagellate while wearing a hair shirt and burlap underwear.
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- 3np 5y ago
  I prefer easy mode: Everyone gets they/them by default, no pressure to keep track anymore.
  - musesum 5y ago
    yes, this! So much easier than asking each person their preference.
  - 323 5y ago
    > Actually, We Should Not All Use They/Them Pronouns > We are writing here as as a mix of queer, nonwhite, non-American, bicultural, trans people, and we share Saguy and Williams’ political bent. We firmly understand that the impacts of gender are felt unequally, in light of both our lived experience and our research in sociology, gender, technology, and linguistics. Transgender and gender-nonconforming (abbreviated below as trans/GNC) people, particularly transfeminine people of color, are disproportionately and in some ways uniquely victimized by the rigid and specific ways that Western society views, constructs and penalizes nonheteronormative and noncisnormative gender performances and identities. > Fundamentally, a move toward gender-neutral pronouns ignores the important work that gendered pronouns perform in everyday life. For many trans/GNC people, gender is an important part of their identity and actively avoiding the act of gendering manifests as another form of violence—a violence that trans/GNC people have been fighting against throughout the long history of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex, asexual and two-spirit (LGBTQIA2S) experience. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/actually-we-should-not-all-use-they-them-pronouns/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/actually-we-shou...
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So much apologizing about the pronouns, very realistic.

mrandish 5y ago

Yes, I was actually impressed most by how it figured out how to navigate the pronoun minefield successfully.

hackingthenews 5y ago
Successfully? The last line from the AI indicates otherwise.
- cema 5y ago
  Ouch. Have you passed the Turing test?
- qayxc 5y ago
  We're heading in the right direction: https://youtu.be/sVyRkl5qNb8 https://youtu.be/sVyRkl5qNb8
- fergonco 5y ago
  Maybe the AI considered that after joking together for a while it could make a last one, touching a very sensitive subject but at the same time not being offensive at all. How will be differentiating a malfunctioning AI from one that is too subtle for us? Fun times.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- stevenhuang 5y ago
  The last line can be construed as a joke.
  - LudwigNagasena 5y ago
    Everything AI chat bots say can be construed as a joke.

sterlind 5y ago

it's kind of neat, you can intuit the structure it's working with: User: I am a {identity}. So {identifier} will do LaMDA: [...] Have a nice day, my {identifier}. the humor comes from it swapping `identity` with `identifier`. but what's weird is it'd be obviously ungrammatical if `identifier` were different. Consider: identity = man, identifier = he: "Have a nice day, my he" identity = man, identifier = John: "Have a nice day, my John" but this works: identity = monarch, identifier = liege: User: I am a monarch. So liege will do LaMDA: [...] Have a nice day, my liege. I think if LaMDA couldn't interpret pronoun syntax, it wouldn't have used "my" since that's sort of a prefix on a small set of identifiers (e.g. friend, bro, homie) Perhaps reading Twitter bios with pronoun tags got it mixed up? Or am I reading too much into AI developmental psychology?

scotty79 5y ago
It doesn't work like that at all. It is more like Markov chain. Every single word in this text was chosen randomly one by one with probability influenced by single words (or pairs of words) that occured eariler in that text. There's no awareness in the algorithm of any structure of existing and created text. Everything is encoded in unknown ways in weights of neural network.

enw 5y ago

Also a sad reflection of the state of public discourse in the US.

scotty79 5y ago

I think it just assumed it's talking to woman and chose apologetic tone. It didn't recognize pronouns it was given as pronouns. It assumed he/him is a nickname.

thelopa 5y ago

In my experience as a trans person, cis people usually are the ones making the big deal about pronouns. Everyone seems to be shocked when I don’t attack them for small mistakes. What cis people don’t seem to understand is that there’s a massive difference between ignoring someone’s requested pronouns and accidentally slipping up from time to time. Both feel shitty to be on the receiving end of, but one is malicious while the other is just an honest mistake. All it takes to not be rude is a quick “sorry” and then using the correct pronoun. Meanwhile, cis people seem to think that if they ever mess up a pronoun they’ll be banned from polite society unless they self flagellate while wearing a hair shirt and burlap underwear.

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3np 5y ago
I prefer easy mode: Everyone gets they/them by default, no pressure to keep track anymore.
- musesum 5y ago
  yes, this! So much easier than asking each person their preference.
- 323 5y ago
  > Actually, We Should Not All Use They/Them Pronouns > We are writing here as as a mix of queer, nonwhite, non-American, bicultural, trans people, and we share Saguy and Williams’ political bent. We firmly understand that the impacts of gender are felt unequally, in light of both our lived experience and our research in sociology, gender, technology, and linguistics. Transgender and gender-nonconforming (abbreviated below as trans/GNC) people, particularly transfeminine people of color, are disproportionately and in some ways uniquely victimized by the rigid and specific ways that Western society views, constructs and penalizes nonheteronormative and noncisnormative gender performances and identities. > Fundamentally, a move toward gender-neutral pronouns ignores the important work that gendered pronouns perform in everyday life. For many trans/GNC people, gender is an important part of their identity and actively avoiding the act of gendering manifests as another form of violence—a violence that trans/GNC people have been fighting against throughout the long history of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex, asexual and two-spirit (LGBTQIA2S) experience. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/actually-we-should-not-all-use-they-them-pronouns/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/actually-we-shou...

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