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We should prioritize development and population-wide administration of effective broad-spectrum HPV vaccines, regardless of how marijuana interacts with HPV-cau

We should prioritize development and population-wide administration of effective broad-spectrum HPV vaccines, regardless of how marijuana interacts with HPV-caused cancers. HPV is basically the cause of cervical cancer, work towards eradicating this long ignored as benign virus already.

belltaco 5y ago
Not going to be easy. https://www.christianpost.com/news/conservatives-raise-red-flag-on-mandatory-hpv-vaccine-for-girls-26520/ https://www.christianpost.com/news/conservatives-raise-red-f... https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2011/sep/16/michele-bachmann/bachmann-hpv-vaccine-cause-mental-retardation/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2011/sep/16/michele-ba...
- pengaru 5y ago
  Children of such people have been dealt an awful hand.
  - WaxedChewbacca 5y ago
  - mensetmanusman 5y ago
    If only life were simple enough to make such statements. On the facet of risk towards a particular form of cancer, it might be an awful hand. On the fact of mental health, it might be a better hand than others: https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/religious-upbringing-adult-health/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/religious-u... At the moment, since mental health seems to be a bigger issue than cancer (according to the media), it’s not trivial to define what an awful hand is :)
    - trasz 5y ago
      Your article is about religiousness in general, while the problem with HPV prevention is specific to a few specific denominations.
    - ChefboyOG 5y ago
      That "(according to the media)" bit of hand-waving is doing a lot of work.
- refurb 5y ago
  This is about as worrisome as the crunchy liberals in Sonoma who make their children wear healing crystals.
  - howinteresting 5y ago
    The groups have a strong overlap.
  - WalterGR 5y ago
    What are the comparative lifetime risks of being exposed to healing crystals vs. not getting the vaccine?
    - refurb 5y ago
      When you don’t give your child access to western medicine but instead to crystals, the risk is pretty fuxking high.
      - WalterGR 5y ago
        Ah, okay, I didn’t realize that you meant using healing crystals instead of vaccines. I read it as: parents using healing crystals at all is as worrisome as not vaccinating their children.
        vasco 5y ago
        It also is, children shouldn't be misled by their parents about scams like healing crystals because they will believe it as they are children. Later in life they might resort to crystals instead of getting medical attention.
        SuoDuanDao 5y ago
        I'm far more worried by children being misled by their parents about scams like stimulants instead of meditation. I've never heard of someone developing a dependancy on a crystal.
riffraff 5y ago
I recently also learned HPV is the cause of the common skin warts! FWIW, Italy, not the most sex-liberal country, started recommending the HPV vaccine for both boy and girls at the 12th year of age a few years back. As per the latest data, 50% of the female 2008 cohort had been vaccinated in 2020, older cohorts sit at 75% (boys at ~40%). Seems it didn't take much to push the numbers up, other than telling people "don't die of cancer".
- whimsicalism 5y ago
  I am a younger (24) man and I was HPV vaccinated in the US in my public middle school. It should be rolled out more broadly.
asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
Gardasil 9 hits enough of the HPV variants that the rate of cancer-causing HPV infections has fallen by 90% in the US. And that's with the fraction of folks who are anti-vaxxers taken into account. This is one of those diseases where the means to prevent being infected is already in hand.
- jjtheblunt 5y ago
  Why do they only offer it to teens (in the US , from what I've seen)?
  - asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
    You can get it up 'til you're 45 (after that it's not approved), but you have to ask. My understanding is most adults have already been infected, so it is not considered very important to vaccinate them. If you haven't had any or many sexual partners, I reckon it could make sense to get it even if you're not a teen any more. On the other hand, if you've been with more than a handful of people, you've probably already been infected.
    - monetus 5y ago
      It will still provide immunity towards other versions of the virus - I've been told it still makes sense even if you have been infected
    - sitkack 5y ago
      I don't think you should be advising people to NOT do things unless it is actively unsafe.
      - asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
        I did not advise inaction at any point in my comment. I conveyed some information about why health policy has the configuration it currently does.
    - 5y ago

belltaco 5y ago

Not going to be easy. https://www.christianpost.com/news/conservatives-raise-red-flag-on-mandatory-hpv-vaccine-for-girls-26520/ https://www.christianpost.com/news/conservatives-raise-red-f... https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2011/sep/16/michele-bachmann/bachmann-hpv-vaccine-cause-mental-retardation/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2011/sep/16/michele-ba...

pengaru 5y ago
Children of such people have been dealt an awful hand.
- WaxedChewbacca 5y ago
- mensetmanusman 5y ago
  If only life were simple enough to make such statements. On the facet of risk towards a particular form of cancer, it might be an awful hand. On the fact of mental health, it might be a better hand than others: https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/religious-upbringing-adult-health/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/religious-u... At the moment, since mental health seems to be a bigger issue than cancer (according to the media), it’s not trivial to define what an awful hand is :)
  - trasz 5y ago
    Your article is about religiousness in general, while the problem with HPV prevention is specific to a few specific denominations.
  - ChefboyOG 5y ago
    That "(according to the media)" bit of hand-waving is doing a lot of work.
refurb 5y ago
This is about as worrisome as the crunchy liberals in Sonoma who make their children wear healing crystals.
- howinteresting 5y ago
  The groups have a strong overlap.
- WalterGR 5y ago
  What are the comparative lifetime risks of being exposed to healing crystals vs. not getting the vaccine?
  - refurb 5y ago
    When you don’t give your child access to western medicine but instead to crystals, the risk is pretty fuxking high.
    - WalterGR 5y ago
      Ah, okay, I didn’t realize that you meant using healing crystals instead of vaccines. I read it as: parents using healing crystals at all is as worrisome as not vaccinating their children.
      - vasco 5y ago
        It also is, children shouldn't be misled by their parents about scams like healing crystals because they will believe it as they are children. Later in life they might resort to crystals instead of getting medical attention.
        SuoDuanDao 5y ago
        I'm far more worried by children being misled by their parents about scams like stimulants instead of meditation. I've never heard of someone developing a dependancy on a crystal.

riffraff 5y ago

I recently also learned HPV is the cause of the common skin warts! FWIW, Italy, not the most sex-liberal country, started recommending the HPV vaccine for both boy and girls at the 12th year of age a few years back. As per the latest data, 50% of the female 2008 cohort had been vaccinated in 2020, older cohorts sit at 75% (boys at ~40%). Seems it didn't take much to push the numbers up, other than telling people "don't die of cancer".

whimsicalism 5y ago
I am a younger (24) man and I was HPV vaccinated in the US in my public middle school. It should be rolled out more broadly.

asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago

Gardasil 9 hits enough of the HPV variants that the rate of cancer-causing HPV infections has fallen by 90% in the US. And that's with the fraction of folks who are anti-vaxxers taken into account. This is one of those diseases where the means to prevent being infected is already in hand.

jjtheblunt 5y ago
Why do they only offer it to teens (in the US , from what I've seen)?
- asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
  You can get it up 'til you're 45 (after that it's not approved), but you have to ask. My understanding is most adults have already been infected, so it is not considered very important to vaccinate them. If you haven't had any or many sexual partners, I reckon it could make sense to get it even if you're not a teen any more. On the other hand, if you've been with more than a handful of people, you've probably already been infected.
  - monetus 5y ago
    It will still provide immunity towards other versions of the virus - I've been told it still makes sense even if you have been infected
  - sitkack 5y ago
    I don't think you should be advising people to NOT do things unless it is actively unsafe.
    - asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
      I did not advise inaction at any point in my comment. I conveyed some information about why health policy has the configuration it currently does.
  - 5y ago