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They've also removed the following from the list of words in future games wench, slave, fibre, agora, pupal, lynch And removed the following from the list of
by banana_giraffe 5y ago
They've also removed the following from the list of words in future games
wench, slave, fibre, agora, pupal, lynch
And removed the following from the list of words that are accepted as guesses (in addition to the above ones):
gooks, darky, pussy, spick, spics, bitch, fagot, dyked, coons, spiks, sluts, dykey, faggy, homos, chink, dykes, lesbo, kikes, whore
Most of those I get, but why did fibre, agora, and pupal get pulled?
- spoonjim 5y agoI’ve always found that the Wordle solution word is very common. So agora and pupal would be surprising in that regard.
- jker 5y agoMaybe they’re agora-phobic.
- jffry 5y ago> why did fibre, agora, and pupal get pulled No idea for fibre, but agora and pupal have repeated letters. Are there other words in the accepted wordlist with repeated letters?
- zucker42 5y agoI would guess they just got removed because they were obscure. I remember past words with repeated letters.
- jessikat 5y agoI solved one the other week with repeated letters, answer was elder.
- banana_giraffe 5y agoYes, there are 689 words left with 4 distinct letters, 57 with 3, and 1 word left that just has 2 distinct letters in it. That word is a common enough English word ... warning, this is a spoiler for a puzzle that should appear in about 5 years ... "mamma"
- songshu 5y agoYes we had KNOLL as an answer recently.
- warrenm 5y ago'elder' is there
- AdamTReineke 5y agoNon-US spelling?
- paxys 5y agoFibre - confusing British vs American spelling Agora & pupal - probably the repeated letters? Or they are just too obscure.
- deleted 5y ago[deleted]
- DecoPerson 5y agoFIBRE is spelt FIBER in American English. AGORA is a rarely-used word and is probably not in the dictionary referenced by The NY Times for their word puzzles. PUPAL may be mis-perceived as a misspelling of PUPIL and frustrate players. I don’t know… I’m guessing!
- banana_giraffe 5y agoProbably reasonable guesses. Though, I'd expect these to be moved to allowed guesses, there's some very obscure stuff in the allowed guess list. Probably just a first pass by whoever's in charge of standards. Now I'm trying to guess if this was a simple pass with an "approved words" list, or if there was a mind-numbing meeting where they spent a day or two looking at words.
- anakaine 5y agoAs someone from British English nation, there's no way I'm ever likely to guess FIBER unless I've exhausted FIBRE first. It breaks the brain. The ER phenomenon goes against every fibre of my being.
- SturgeonsLaw 5y agoAlso from a Commonwealth nation and I prefer the -er spelling. It looks more balanced, take the word center as an example, it plain looks nicer, and having a vowel flow onto a consonant for a hard ending means the spelling matches the actual pronunciation. I think centre at first glance would suggest a more French pronunciation - "cen-tray". That said, I'll never forgive American English for what it did to Aluminium. The word Aluminium just sparkles and glitters like the metal itself, whereas Aluminum has a distinctly cold sound, like an echo in an empty hall early on a winter's morning.
- tempestn 5y agoAs a Canadian I have a weird mishmash that looks right to me. I'd actually use both center and centre in different contexts. Like, the center of a circle is clearly center, but a rec centre looks better that way! (Notwithstanding the red underline my browser with its own preference is giving me...)
- fotta 5y agoI see the Spelling Bee editors have taken over...
- bee_rider 5y agoI don't really see the motivation for removing slurs, etc, from the available guess list in a game where you are the only one who sees your guesses. Good of them to take the words with unpleasant associations out of the solutions list, though.
- jyap 5y agoImagine this scenario. People can easily make a whole game panel of these word guesses, then post a screen shot on social media. Then cancel culture mob takes over.
- bee_rider 5y agoI don't see much being held to that standard, for example you can write these words in notepad but nobody has come for Microsoft on this front.
- rising-sky 5y agoImagine this scenario, you open Wordle to guess the word for the day. You put in your guesses and manage to guess it right, but it's a slur that's been used against you on many occasions and now you have to relive traumatic episodes, when all you wanted was a positive experience?
- bee_rider 5y agoThe game has two word lists -- a "possible solution" set and an "allowed guess" set. They removed: * some words with negative connotations from the solution set * slurs from the allowed guess set As such, I believe there already weren't any slurs in the possible solution set. Or at least they weren't in the group of words which were mentioned as removed here. So, your scenario was already not possible. I think removing the words with negative connotations from the solution set was a great move because, while they aren't slurs, there's no need to give people that negative experience.
- queuebert 5y ago
- blunte 5y agoFibre could be because it might annoy American players who object to non-American English spellings. Pupal and agora I really don't get. Maybe some uneducated players would think pupal was some dirty word (related to poop???), but agora has no negative association that I can imagine. As for the other removed words, I think it's fortunate for the Wardle guy that that list was not publicized before it got bought. That would have created a firestorm and possibly eliminated his chance of the sale.
- roelschroeven 5y ago> As for the other removed words, I think it's fortunate for the Wardle guy that that list was not publicized before it got bought. That would have created a firestorm and possibly eliminated his chance of the sale. The word lists were (and are) in the site's javascript, readable for anyone who cares to look.
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- Jerrrry 5y agoAgora is the leading drug Darknet Marketplace. That is surely it, it is the only (negative) connotation and incident in culture.
- banana_giraffe 5y agoAhh, that'll do it. Fascinating.
- abecedarius 5y agoOh, for chrissakes. As if nobody ever read about classical Greece. (Upvoted for the info, which I'll bet is right. Christ.)
- zem 5y agosheesh!
- dTal 5y agoAnd now here we are talking about it. Bit of a Streisand effect, that.
- lewispollard 5y agoMaybe, but Agora was shut down in 2015.
- jmull 5y agoI would guess they simply applied their existing word game dictionary — probably the same one they use for “Spelling Bee”. It doesn’t include slurs, uses US-spellings (at least in the US), and intentionally doesn’t include “obscure” words, though obviously that’s a judgement call. (Spelling Bee has an email link if you want to dispute an exclusion — I believe I helped get “ichor” added to the list.)
- paulcole 5y agoSpelling Bee accepts agora. Spelling Bee and LetterBoxed have very different dictionaries. Spelling Bee is way more “strict.”
- godmode2019 5y agoThey forgot 'Trump'
- likpok 5y agoThe wordle code has two distinct arrays: the list of answers and the list of other words you can guess. If you carelessly remove words from the answers you will also make it impossible to guess them. I figure they removed some answers without adding them to the acceptable guesses because they didn’t think about it. Fibre, agora and pupal are a little esoteric. Not as much as many words on the SOWPODS list, but enough to perhaps be annoying.