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It goes to show the biases of The Economist that Israel is marked as a "flawed democracy" rather than a "hybrid regime". Israel is a hybrid regime if there eve

It goes to show the biases of The Economist that Israel is marked as a "flawed democracy" rather than a "hybrid regime". Israel is a hybrid regime if there ever was one.

bronzeage 5y ago
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- rob74 5y ago
  I'm not that deeply involved, but I find it a bit schizophrenic that on one hand Israel disposes of the Palestinian territories as it pleases (founding settlements in the West Bank, building a wall around the Gaza Strip), but on the other hand when it encounters stuff it doesn't want to deal with, it points to the Palestinians "self-governing" themselves...
- colordrops 5y ago
  Could your statement be any more racist, jeez. Isn't this sort of comment explicitly disallowed on HN?
  - WalterGR 5y ago
    What’s sad is that user appears to be shadow-banned, which means their comments are hidden by default - until enough people “vouch” for them. So not only did someone post that dreck, enough people vouched for it that it’s no longer hidden. I hope there’s another explanation.
    - oefrha 5y ago
      I sent an email just now. Whoever vouched for it will have their privilege revoked, hopefully.
    - Mizza 5y ago
      I can't reply to the dead comment now, but I wanted to point out that it's also just factually wrong as well as racist zionofascism - the Arab Spring started in Tunisia and now they have a fairly reasonable and stable constitutional democracy.
0xedd 5y ago
The brainwashed majority of this board is amazing. The previous comment here is true and people judge, from their leather sofas, thousands of kilometers away, a culture as well as a country without knowing the least bit of history about them outside of mainstream media. In a political context, we can't have political discourse that doesn't align with the Western fantasy? How far have you fallen. Freedom, free speech and all those slogans are just a disgusting lie. For those who downvoted it and reported it are invited to turn off their TVs and read Time Immemorial. A book written about the recent (decades) history of the region. With quotes and sources cited at the end of it. Ranging from UN, public announcements and other documents. For example, absolutely everyone ignores the fact that the region of Palestine includes Jordan. A country 4 times the size of Israel with much less populace. When they shriek Palestinians, no one thinks of Jordanians. Strange? Nah, brainwashed. In Israel, 20% of the population are Arabs. 20% of parliament members are Arabs. Arabs are exempt from the mandatory 2-3 years military service. Arabs receive a special scholarship to universities, regardless of their SAT score. No wonder the heads of hospital departments and country's top doctors are Arabs. Yet, the west is somehow convinced there's apartheid here. Successful propaganda is successful. You must understand there are over 7 billion people on this earth and most are different than you. In addition, it isn't a defacto rule that everyone alive in 2022 is civilized, will not lie and let you live. Something that the West assumes like some knee jerk reaction. A small anecdote - my colleague is Arab, works as a DevOps engineer, makes 150k USD a year, had an onboarding bonus of 40k in stocks and receives a "top up" additional stocks every 6 months after 2 years. How much do you make compared to the "oppressed"? Anyway, ignore your ego and finish that book.
- Mizza 5y ago
  "Israel is not a state of all its citizens, but rather the nation-state of the Jewish people and only them." - Benjamin Netanyahu, 2019 You are deliberately excluding the passportless, subjugated people who are forced to live in permanent poverty because of Israel's brutal and illegal occupation. Your rich colleague doesn't mean those people don't exist.
- darebak 5y ago
  I know nothing about the Palestinian conflict but I have to say that a lot of what you are saying is repeated by Europeans about Roma people and about other Europeans who happen to be a sizable minority in another European country. It almost seems like it's better to be a minority than a majority. I don't know if that's factual or not, but it doesn't seem that way, the simplest answer would be that is just pure tribalism.

It goes to show the biases of The Economist that Israel is marked as a "flawed democracy" rather than a "hybrid regime". Israel is a hybrid regime if there ever was one.

bronzeage 5y ago

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rob74 5y ago
I'm not that deeply involved, but I find it a bit schizophrenic that on one hand Israel disposes of the Palestinian territories as it pleases (founding settlements in the West Bank, building a wall around the Gaza Strip), but on the other hand when it encounters stuff it doesn't want to deal with, it points to the Palestinians "self-governing" themselves...
colordrops 5y ago
Could your statement be any more racist, jeez. Isn't this sort of comment explicitly disallowed on HN?
- WalterGR 5y ago
  What’s sad is that user appears to be shadow-banned, which means their comments are hidden by default - until enough people “vouch” for them. So not only did someone post that dreck, enough people vouched for it that it’s no longer hidden. I hope there’s another explanation.
  - oefrha 5y ago
    I sent an email just now. Whoever vouched for it will have their privilege revoked, hopefully.
  - Mizza 5y ago
    I can't reply to the dead comment now, but I wanted to point out that it's also just factually wrong as well as racist zionofascism - the Arab Spring started in Tunisia and now they have a fairly reasonable and stable constitutional democracy.

0xedd 5y ago

The brainwashed majority of this board is amazing. The previous comment here is true and people judge, from their leather sofas, thousands of kilometers away, a culture as well as a country without knowing the least bit of history about them outside of mainstream media. In a political context, we can't have political discourse that doesn't align with the Western fantasy? How far have you fallen. Freedom, free speech and all those slogans are just a disgusting lie. For those who downvoted it and reported it are invited to turn off their TVs and read Time Immemorial. A book written about the recent (decades) history of the region. With quotes and sources cited at the end of it. Ranging from UN, public announcements and other documents. For example, absolutely everyone ignores the fact that the region of Palestine includes Jordan. A country 4 times the size of Israel with much less populace. When they shriek Palestinians, no one thinks of Jordanians. Strange? Nah, brainwashed. In Israel, 20% of the population are Arabs. 20% of parliament members are Arabs. Arabs are exempt from the mandatory 2-3 years military service. Arabs receive a special scholarship to universities, regardless of their SAT score. No wonder the heads of hospital departments and country's top doctors are Arabs. Yet, the west is somehow convinced there's apartheid here. Successful propaganda is successful. You must understand there are over 7 billion people on this earth and most are different than you. In addition, it isn't a defacto rule that everyone alive in 2022 is civilized, will not lie and let you live. Something that the West assumes like some knee jerk reaction. A small anecdote - my colleague is Arab, works as a DevOps engineer, makes 150k USD a year, had an onboarding bonus of 40k in stocks and receives a "top up" additional stocks every 6 months after 2 years. How much do you make compared to the "oppressed"? Anyway, ignore your ego and finish that book.

Mizza 5y ago
"Israel is not a state of all its citizens, but rather the nation-state of the Jewish people and only them." - Benjamin Netanyahu, 2019 You are deliberately excluding the passportless, subjugated people who are forced to live in permanent poverty because of Israel's brutal and illegal occupation. Your rich colleague doesn't mean those people don't exist.
darebak 5y ago
I know nothing about the Palestinian conflict but I have to say that a lot of what you are saying is repeated by Europeans about Roma people and about other Europeans who happen to be a sizable minority in another European country. It almost seems like it's better to be a minority than a majority. I don't know if that's factual or not, but it doesn't seem that way, the simplest answer would be that is just pure tribalism.