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The "Girls Who Code" program was created because of the discrimination and bias women face in the tech industry (not to mention other workplaces and areas of li
by NylaTheWolf 5y ago
The "Girls Who Code" program was created because of the discrimination and bias women face in the tech industry (not to mention other workplaces and areas of life). Also, the existence of woman managers doesn't suddenly mean that sexism doesn't exist in the industry. I'd imagine that many woman managers have faced a lot of prejudice throughout their careers. And there's probably a large amount of women who want to get into technology, but are intimidated by the space and fear potential sexism.
Also, the reason that running a "boys club for computers" or a "men's IT society" wouldn't end well is because men already make up a large portion of the tech space and, like I said, there's a lot of gender bias in the tech world. This comment comes off as you using anecdotal evidence to disprove the marginalization women face.
- beiller 5y agoYour comment does totally make sense. But I also wonder, would a "Men's Teachers Club" for example have the same level of acceptance?
- anotherman554 5y agoI don't know if a men's teaching club would be accepted, but I can tell you I've been told by a female school teacher looking for work that it's much easier to get hired as a male because high school administrators are desperate for more male role models to help struggling male students given the lack of male staff in high schools.
- beiller 5y agoIt's easier to get hired as a male teacher because university and teaching school grads demographically skew female. There is less supply of male teachers ultimately which causes the high demand for male teachers is what I've heard.
- tstrimple 5y agoMen's teacher support groups exist. Men's nursing support groups exist. Men's breast cancer support groups exist. Men's support groups in general exist. If you find a place in society where men are underrepresented, there is probably a support group for men in that space.
- jimbokun 5y agoWhat is your evidence for discrimination? Are they paid less for the same work? Denied promotions? Are men being favored for hiring over equally qualified women?
- newaccount74 5y agoThe problems women face in male-dominated fields are well documented. Blog posts and articles describing the discrimination are occasionally posted on HN, and if you're a frequent reader you must have seen them. There are obvious issues like sexual harassment. Almost every woman I know has been a victim of it at some point, but I don't know any man who has been sexually harassed at the workplace. For this reason men typically think that sexual harassment at the workplace is not a big issue. But there's also more subtle things, that are hard to measure since companies aren't open about them, like women being made lower offers for the same job with the same qualifications, or women being less likely to be promoted, or women straight up being refused the job because "they might leave the job soon to have children". Getting evidence for these things is hard, because companies rarely give a reason why they are hiring or promoting someone, and even if they give a reason it's very rarely something that can be objectively measured.