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This seems to be only about writing jobs. I don't think of those as "high status" apart from the wages, but maybe I'm alone here. I thought he was going to focu

This seems to be only about writing jobs. I don't think of those as "high status" apart from the wages, but maybe I'm alone here. I thought he was going to focus on roles like non-tenured professorships and post-docs, mid level non-profit jobs, and the clergy.

alisonkisk 5y ago
ghaff 5y ago
Oh there's clearly status to being a published author--at least in many circles. And I would say also an NYT or WSJ journalist.
- SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
  There is status to being a published author people have heard of or with some acclaim. Not really outside of it. Poets with published chapbooks, or novelists published indie, or even mid-list authors don’t really have much status. Also if you write romance, forget about ever getting respect from anyone, even other authors.
MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
YEwSdObPQT 5y ago
> This seems to be only about writing jobs. I don't think of those as "high status" apart from the wages, but maybe I'm alone here. You and I don't think of them as high status. However there is a proportion of people that do pay attention to writers, these maybe TV, films, media, politicians that are all within the "Cathedral". You see this a lot of Twitter. Politicians pay a lot of attention to Twitter and tbh I doubt many normal people ever pay attention to what people see on twitter. Those writing jobs are seen as high status because you can be influencing on "important" things. If you ever watch clips of corporate news talking point shows they end up inviting a lot of the same people on. Many of these are writers for smaller publications that are safe enough i.e. inside the Overton window to present "balance" or be presented as "experts". Simply being on TV for a few minutes is seen as a big deal (especially to older people 50+).
- ghaff 5y ago
  >If you ever watch clips of corporate news talking point shows they end up inviting a lot of the same people on. Both individual reporters and TV show producers develop a go to list of people who at least seem to know what they're talking about, usually don't have too much of an axe to grind, are presentable in the case of TV, etc. And, yes, to a lot of people they can't really imagine being invited on a TV show so someone who is "must be a real expert" which often isn't the case.

alisonkisk 5y ago

ghaff 5y ago

Oh there's clearly status to being a published author--at least in many circles. And I would say also an NYT or WSJ journalist.

SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
There is status to being a published author people have heard of or with some acclaim. Not really outside of it. Poets with published chapbooks, or novelists published indie, or even mid-list authors don’t really have much status. Also if you write romance, forget about ever getting respect from anyone, even other authors.

MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago

YEwSdObPQT 5y ago

> This seems to be only about writing jobs. I don't think of those as "high status" apart from the wages, but maybe I'm alone here. You and I don't think of them as high status. However there is a proportion of people that do pay attention to writers, these maybe TV, films, media, politicians that are all within the "Cathedral". You see this a lot of Twitter. Politicians pay a lot of attention to Twitter and tbh I doubt many normal people ever pay attention to what people see on twitter. Those writing jobs are seen as high status because you can be influencing on "important" things. If you ever watch clips of corporate news talking point shows they end up inviting a lot of the same people on. Many of these are writers for smaller publications that are safe enough i.e. inside the Overton window to present "balance" or be presented as "experts". Simply being on TV for a few minutes is seen as a big deal (especially to older people 50+).

ghaff 5y ago
>If you ever watch clips of corporate news talking point shows they end up inviting a lot of the same people on. Both individual reporters and TV show producers develop a go to list of people who at least seem to know what they're talking about, usually don't have too much of an axe to grind, are presentable in the case of TV, etc. And, yes, to a lot of people they can't really imagine being invited on a TV show so someone who is "must be a real expert" which often isn't the case.