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I'd definitely prefer to use Outlook and Office over Gmail and Gdocs.

movedx 5y ago
Then I'd say you're in a very small, shrinking minority. Outlook is garbage. Office is slow due to feature float that people don't even use. There's a reason Google Documents doesn't have mail mergers and the crap Word does - no one uses it.
- kyawzazaw 5y ago
  Outlook works fine to me. Honestly, don't think it is any bad to reject any offer.
  - movedx 5y ago
    I agree it's NOT a valid reason to reject a job offer. That's just silly.
- disgruntledphd2 5y ago
  I don't feel like this is true. Do you really like Google Calendar? Cos that's the part of G-suite that I hate the most, and Outlook calendar is far, far better. Mind you, I much prefer gmail search to outlook search, but Google Calendar is so annoying to use that I'll vote for MS tools (except Teams) every day of the week.
  - movedx 5y ago
    I've never compared the two. You might be a power user of the calendar, so Outlook's advanced functionality is important to you. My needs are simple (by design) and so a simple solution is just that: simple.
    - disgruntledphd2 5y ago
      My needs are not complicated, but I definitely found Google Calendar difficult to use (I use it personally on my Android, and it's definitely pretty annoying). I'd prefer to use Google web based tools if possible, but Gcal is just really unintuitive, to me at least.
xmcqdpt2 5y ago
Me too and I'm surprised this is at all controversial. Word is a native app with important features (structural elements, templates, macros etc), real time collaborative editing, fully customizable keybindings, bibliography management, mathematical equation editor with latex symbols, etc. Google Docs is a slow, web-based, nerfed clone of it. If you just have to write the occasional memo then sure, Google Docs is serviceable. However if documents are an important part of my job, I want to be doing them in Word. (I've even put emacs keybindings in it.)
- Brian_K_White 5y ago
  Developers/sysadmins, and people for whom documents matter remotely that much, are two different groups of people. It's a tool for tools.
- sushid 5y ago
  HNers have strange hills they want to die on. Sure, all else being equal something like Teams vs Slack might make me switch to one company over another but it's not a dealbreaker by any means. Things like language or framework, I can understand (to a certain degree) but giving up an otherwise awesome job because of Slack vs Teams is ludicrous to me.
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  - kyawzazaw 5y ago
    I agree. The only thing Teams and Slack really differ is probably the channels and threads. And it is not that confusing.
ReactiveJelly 5y ago
Idk. The Outlook web client takes like 20 seconds to load. I'd use a desktop client, but MS' SMTP server doesn't work, so I can only receive emails on my desktop, not send them.

Then I'd say you're in a very small, shrinking minority. Outlook is garbage. Office is slow due to feature float that people don't even use. There's a reason Google Documents doesn't have mail mergers and the crap Word does - no one uses it.

kyawzazaw 5y ago
Outlook works fine to me. Honestly, don't think it is any bad to reject any offer.
- movedx 5y ago
  I agree it's NOT a valid reason to reject a job offer. That's just silly.
disgruntledphd2 5y ago
I don't feel like this is true. Do you really like Google Calendar? Cos that's the part of G-suite that I hate the most, and Outlook calendar is far, far better. Mind you, I much prefer gmail search to outlook search, but Google Calendar is so annoying to use that I'll vote for MS tools (except Teams) every day of the week.
- movedx 5y ago
  I've never compared the two. You might be a power user of the calendar, so Outlook's advanced functionality is important to you. My needs are simple (by design) and so a simple solution is just that: simple.
  - disgruntledphd2 5y ago
    My needs are not complicated, but I definitely found Google Calendar difficult to use (I use it personally on my Android, and it's definitely pretty annoying). I'd prefer to use Google web based tools if possible, but Gcal is just really unintuitive, to me at least.

xmcqdpt2 5y ago

Me too and I'm surprised this is at all controversial. Word is a native app with important features (structural elements, templates, macros etc), real time collaborative editing, fully customizable keybindings, bibliography management, mathematical equation editor with latex symbols, etc. Google Docs is a slow, web-based, nerfed clone of it. If you just have to write the occasional memo then sure, Google Docs is serviceable. However if documents are an important part of my job, I want to be doing them in Word. (I've even put emacs keybindings in it.)

Brian_K_White 5y ago
Developers/sysadmins, and people for whom documents matter remotely that much, are two different groups of people. It's a tool for tools.
sushid 5y ago
HNers have strange hills they want to die on. Sure, all else being equal something like Teams vs Slack might make me switch to one company over another but it's not a dealbreaker by any means. Things like language or framework, I can understand (to a certain degree) but giving up an otherwise awesome job because of Slack vs Teams is ludicrous to me.
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- kyawzazaw 5y ago
  I agree. The only thing Teams and Slack really differ is probably the channels and threads. And it is not that confusing.

ReactiveJelly 5y ago

Idk. The Outlook web client takes like 20 seconds to load. I'd use a desktop client, but MS' SMTP server doesn't work, so I can only receive emails on my desktop, not send them.