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Not mentioned in the post, but mentioned in the book that inspired the post: 2C-B is a fun one. Good times have been had there.

c7DJTLrn 5y ago
Seemed overrated to me. Maybe I got the dose wrong but the purity can be so inconsistent that everyone's going to have a different experience. I'd much rather take some classic LSD, you know what you're in for and it doesn't end disappointingly early like 2C-B.
- netizen-936824 5y ago
  2C-B was enjoyable but seriously lacks introspection from my experience. It felt like "psychedelic-lite" where the visual effects are quite pronounced... but that's about it LSD is a different ballgame from the 2C family IMO, its difficult to compare. From my experience (again this is quite subjective) the visuals from LSD weren't as "thick" and deeply colorful. They had a sort of whispyness to them and (usually) a much deeper headspace
  - oceanghost 5y ago
    > the visual effects are quite pronounced This is what I remember about 2CB. It looked like the Matrix effect to me but in translucent rainbow colors.
- loves_mangoes 5y ago
  I'm surprised, because you don't often hear that particular criticism of 2C-B. Mostly, people complain about nausea, or the fact that it burns very painfully when people insuflate it Purity and accurate dosage is a function of your vendor. Buying 2C-B pills will be more dangerous, they are notoriously underdosed and should ideally be sent to a lab first, but at the very least spot-checked with a reagent test kit. Duration is a subjective preference, I feel. LSD is nice, I like it very much, but I can understand than 12 hours uninterrupted is not something everyone can allocate in their schedule.
  - c7DJTLrn 5y ago
    Yep, I spared the details regarding nausea but the contents of my stomach were definitely emptied once or twice. As far as I remember it wasn't anything special and the additional side effects and risk you describe make it just not worth it in my opinion.
    - loves_mangoes 5y ago
      That's fair enough. I did hear it repeated a lot that 2C-B's dosage curve seems to be particularly steep and non-linear. I don't know that it's been studied very scientifically, but reportedly the difference between 40 and 50mg is much bigger than the difference between 20 and 30. I stick to low dosages, partly to avoid nausea and partly because I like to be somewhat cautious with this delicate biological machinery I don't understand. For me it's also something I can take a small dose of occasionally when I have a big night out, if I'd like to sleep early, or if I'd like more stimulation and less headspace. LSD I use for long introspective trips, physically by myself so that I can tune in and out of online social interactions depending on how I feel. I feel like 2C-B is a nice option to have for different settings. Since I don't very much experience the downsides it's worth it for me, but I can definitely acknowledge the downsides =)
    - Scoundreller 5y ago
      > I spared the details regarding nausea but the contents of my stomach were definitely emptied once or twice. Zofran works for my friend, zofran. Whether it’s specific serotonin blocking effects that fixes the nausea has +/- psych experience is unknown. (Supposedly it can contribute to serotonin syndrome, but I don’t understand the mechanism. Seems theoretical, but don’t say I didn’t warn you).
    - KarlKode 5y ago
      Snort it (hurts really bad for 5-10 minutes, afterwards okay, redosing takes its toll though...) can help with the nausea. I make a solution so that I can use a nose spray to dispense about 2-5mg per pump. Then I can redose every 15 minutes until I get to a dosage I enjoy.
- capableweb 5y ago
  2C-B has a very "surface level" high compared to LSD, which can absolutely make your mind go into itself, 2C-B doesn't take itself as serious. 2C-B can be fun even in larger groups where you don't know people too well, and it's mostly just visual gags and euphoria that happen. LSD on the other hand requires a personal connection to everyone in the group already, triggers deep introspection and is not nearly as visual as 2C-B, and euphoria only happens when it would happen in real-life, but LSD can easily make you go down the other road.
pmoriarty 5y ago
"Not mentioned in the post, but mentioned in the book that inspired the post: 2C-B" It is mentioned in the article: "these and other reasons make me suspect that even 'safer' phenethylamines like 2C-B won't be getting FDA approval anytime soon."
dr_dshiv 5y ago
One can write fluently on half a pill, which is quite handy.
1_player 5y ago
A little more than a decade ago I ordered a bag of 2C-I, shipped to me via snail mail from China. One of the most enjoyable psychedelics I've ever tried. At the time 2C-B was already harder to get and I was a little bummed out I had to settle for something less known.
- baremetal 5y ago
  i probably ordered some about the same time as you. 2cb had become impossible to get. so i got 500mg of 2c-i. was my sunday trip for many a sundays. very low key and relaxed trips for me

c7DJTLrn 5y ago

Seemed overrated to me. Maybe I got the dose wrong but the purity can be so inconsistent that everyone's going to have a different experience. I'd much rather take some classic LSD, you know what you're in for and it doesn't end disappointingly early like 2C-B.

netizen-936824 5y ago
2C-B was enjoyable but seriously lacks introspection from my experience. It felt like "psychedelic-lite" where the visual effects are quite pronounced... but that's about it LSD is a different ballgame from the 2C family IMO, its difficult to compare. From my experience (again this is quite subjective) the visuals from LSD weren't as "thick" and deeply colorful. They had a sort of whispyness to them and (usually) a much deeper headspace
- oceanghost 5y ago
  > the visual effects are quite pronounced This is what I remember about 2CB. It looked like the Matrix effect to me but in translucent rainbow colors.
loves_mangoes 5y ago
I'm surprised, because you don't often hear that particular criticism of 2C-B. Mostly, people complain about nausea, or the fact that it burns very painfully when people insuflate it Purity and accurate dosage is a function of your vendor. Buying 2C-B pills will be more dangerous, they are notoriously underdosed and should ideally be sent to a lab first, but at the very least spot-checked with a reagent test kit. Duration is a subjective preference, I feel. LSD is nice, I like it very much, but I can understand than 12 hours uninterrupted is not something everyone can allocate in their schedule.
- c7DJTLrn 5y ago
  Yep, I spared the details regarding nausea but the contents of my stomach were definitely emptied once or twice. As far as I remember it wasn't anything special and the additional side effects and risk you describe make it just not worth it in my opinion.
  - loves_mangoes 5y ago
    That's fair enough. I did hear it repeated a lot that 2C-B's dosage curve seems to be particularly steep and non-linear. I don't know that it's been studied very scientifically, but reportedly the difference between 40 and 50mg is much bigger than the difference between 20 and 30. I stick to low dosages, partly to avoid nausea and partly because I like to be somewhat cautious with this delicate biological machinery I don't understand. For me it's also something I can take a small dose of occasionally when I have a big night out, if I'd like to sleep early, or if I'd like more stimulation and less headspace. LSD I use for long introspective trips, physically by myself so that I can tune in and out of online social interactions depending on how I feel. I feel like 2C-B is a nice option to have for different settings. Since I don't very much experience the downsides it's worth it for me, but I can definitely acknowledge the downsides =)
  - Scoundreller 5y ago
    > I spared the details regarding nausea but the contents of my stomach were definitely emptied once or twice. Zofran works for my friend, zofran. Whether it’s specific serotonin blocking effects that fixes the nausea has +/- psych experience is unknown. (Supposedly it can contribute to serotonin syndrome, but I don’t understand the mechanism. Seems theoretical, but don’t say I didn’t warn you).
  - KarlKode 5y ago
    Snort it (hurts really bad for 5-10 minutes, afterwards okay, redosing takes its toll though...) can help with the nausea. I make a solution so that I can use a nose spray to dispense about 2-5mg per pump. Then I can redose every 15 minutes until I get to a dosage I enjoy.
capableweb 5y ago
2C-B has a very "surface level" high compared to LSD, which can absolutely make your mind go into itself, 2C-B doesn't take itself as serious. 2C-B can be fun even in larger groups where you don't know people too well, and it's mostly just visual gags and euphoria that happen. LSD on the other hand requires a personal connection to everyone in the group already, triggers deep introspection and is not nearly as visual as 2C-B, and euphoria only happens when it would happen in real-life, but LSD can easily make you go down the other road.

pmoriarty 5y ago

"Not mentioned in the post, but mentioned in the book that inspired the post: 2C-B" It is mentioned in the article: "these and other reasons make me suspect that even 'safer' phenethylamines like 2C-B won't be getting FDA approval anytime soon."

dr_dshiv 5y ago

One can write fluently on half a pill, which is quite handy.

1_player 5y ago

A little more than a decade ago I ordered a bag of 2C-I, shipped to me via snail mail from China. One of the most enjoyable psychedelics I've ever tried. At the time 2C-B was already harder to get and I was a little bummed out I had to settle for something less known.

baremetal 5y ago
i probably ordered some about the same time as you. 2cb had become impossible to get. so i got 500mg of 2c-i. was my sunday trip for many a sundays. very low key and relaxed trips for me