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You seem to be confusing sex and gender. There's a difference. https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/48642.html https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/48642.html

tiahura 5y ago
- fxleach 5y ago
  I suggest you re-read the list of definitions at the link you posted. You might learn something invaluable.
- staticman2 5y ago
  OED doesn't suggest they are the same. You know words have more than one definition depending on context right?
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  No matter which words you use to describe it, there is inarguably a social role that is bimodally distributed and imperfectly correlated with sex that determines which pronouns we use for people, amongst other things. Even if you don't want to call that gender for some odd reason, that doesn't change the fact that this social construct is separate from sex.
  - tiahura 5y ago
    - sudosysgen 5y ago
      I don't think people are making mistakes. It's a social construct. If I want to consider these people women, there is nothing stopping me, and I don't need to care about people's chromosomes.
  - Auracle 5y ago
    It’s weird to me that when I was growing up the push was that gender roles were social constructs and should be torn down/ignored. Now it’s “if you’re a girl and you like to play video games, maybe you were just born in the wrong body.” Gender can’t be just a social construct and also a reason to transition, at least in my mind.
    - staticman2 5y ago
      I don't think anyone is actually saying "If you’re a girl and you like to play video games, maybe you were just born in the wrong body.” Like, i saw a meme on reddit with a person saying "People keep telling me to just be a butch lesbian instead of transitioning to a man :(" Presumably a butch lesbian can do anything a man can do except walking around without a shirt, so I don't think that's the issue.
    - sudosysgen 5y ago
      No one is telling people to transition because they're trans. There is some tension between the two positions, but they are reconciliable. As far as we have gender as a social construct, and we will for the foreseeable future, gender identity is inevitable.

tiahura 5y ago

fxleach 5y ago
I suggest you re-read the list of definitions at the link you posted. You might learn something invaluable.
staticman2 5y ago
OED doesn't suggest they are the same. You know words have more than one definition depending on context right?
sudosysgen 5y ago
No matter which words you use to describe it, there is inarguably a social role that is bimodally distributed and imperfectly correlated with sex that determines which pronouns we use for people, amongst other things. Even if you don't want to call that gender for some odd reason, that doesn't change the fact that this social construct is separate from sex.
- tiahura 5y ago
  - sudosysgen 5y ago
    I don't think people are making mistakes. It's a social construct. If I want to consider these people women, there is nothing stopping me, and I don't need to care about people's chromosomes.
- Auracle 5y ago
  It’s weird to me that when I was growing up the push was that gender roles were social constructs and should be torn down/ignored. Now it’s “if you’re a girl and you like to play video games, maybe you were just born in the wrong body.” Gender can’t be just a social construct and also a reason to transition, at least in my mind.
  - staticman2 5y ago
    I don't think anyone is actually saying "If you’re a girl and you like to play video games, maybe you were just born in the wrong body.” Like, i saw a meme on reddit with a person saying "People keep telling me to just be a butch lesbian instead of transitioning to a man :(" Presumably a butch lesbian can do anything a man can do except walking around without a shirt, so I don't think that's the issue.
  - sudosysgen 5y ago
    No one is telling people to transition because they're trans. There is some tension between the two positions, but they are reconciliable. As far as we have gender as a social construct, and we will for the foreseeable future, gender identity is inevitable.