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The Gender Gap in Censorship Support

47 points by yamrzou 5y ago

jrajav 5y ago
Interesting summary and a good read. I would like to know the author's opinion on whether or not women could be more censorious of harmful discrimination due to experiencing more of it in their lives first-hand than men do. And similarly, whether it could be significant that some of the materials mentioned (studies and books) present conclusions in favor of men. I didn't see these potential causalities explored though others were.
- jakelazaroff 5y ago
  > I would like to know the author's opinion on whether or not women could be more censorious of harmful discrimination due to experiencing more of it in their lives first-hand than men do. That was my first thought, too. It would be interesting to see similar studies done with regard to race, gender identity, etc.
- NylaTheWolf 5y ago
  Those are my exact thoughts as well. I guess it was supposed to be more of an overview of the findings, but it's a shame that we didn't get a more in-depth summary about the findings and get more context about the content that they showed.
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  You are looking for excuses. Minorities rarely champion more censorship since they would never be able to implement it obviously. > Although support for censorship is often associated with authoritarianism, it likely is motivated—at least in part—by desires to protect others from harm. Funnily in English the word for that is called paternalism. I language curiosity in my opinion. But the motivation does not change the fact that it is authoritarian. But the fact remains that you justify a bad opinion with past oppression. That certainly will help nobody and is probably not connected at all.
dfdz 5y ago
> I have observed similar patterns in some of my own work. For example, in a very recent study I conducted with 440 online adults (I will add a preprint link when it is available)… Can anyone find the preprint? This blog post was from April 2021 so it might be available somewhere, but I cannot find it.
throwaway1777 5y ago
So basically as women have become a bigger part of the workforce censorship has become a bigger part of it too.
tharne 5y ago
I think this say more about who is and is not part of the dominant cultural forces right now. My guess is that people more likely to be censored or punished for speaking their views are more pro-free speech, while those who's views happen to align better with the cultural zeitgeist are fine with censorship because it affects them less.
- NylaTheWolf 5y ago
  I feel like it's dismissive and reductive to simply call it a "cultural zeitgeist." Like jrajav said in their comment[1], a large part of it likely has to do with women experiencing more discrimination and prejudice first-hand, and thus they feel more strongly about harmful discrimination and have that added perspective about their first-hand experiences with misogyny. [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30252732 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30252732

47 points by yamrzou 5y ago

Interesting summary and a good read. I would like to know the author's opinion on whether or not women could be more censorious of harmful discrimination due to experiencing more of it in their lives first-hand than men do. And similarly, whether it could be significant that some of the materials mentioned (studies and books) present conclusions in favor of men. I didn't see these potential causalities explored though others were.

jakelazaroff 5y ago
> I would like to know the author's opinion on whether or not women could be more censorious of harmful discrimination due to experiencing more of it in their lives first-hand than men do. That was my first thought, too. It would be interesting to see similar studies done with regard to race, gender identity, etc.
NylaTheWolf 5y ago
Those are my exact thoughts as well. I guess it was supposed to be more of an overview of the findings, but it's a shame that we didn't get a more in-depth summary about the findings and get more context about the content that they showed.
raxxorrax 5y ago
You are looking for excuses. Minorities rarely champion more censorship since they would never be able to implement it obviously. > Although support for censorship is often associated with authoritarianism, it likely is motivated—at least in part—by desires to protect others from harm. Funnily in English the word for that is called paternalism. I language curiosity in my opinion. But the motivation does not change the fact that it is authoritarian. But the fact remains that you justify a bad opinion with past oppression. That certainly will help nobody and is probably not connected at all.

dfdz 5y ago

> I have observed similar patterns in some of my own work. For example, in a very recent study I conducted with 440 online adults (I will add a preprint link when it is available)… Can anyone find the preprint? This blog post was from April 2021 so it might be available somewhere, but I cannot find it.

throwaway1777 5y ago

So basically as women have become a bigger part of the workforce censorship has become a bigger part of it too.

tharne 5y ago

I think this say more about who is and is not part of the dominant cultural forces right now. My guess is that people more likely to be censored or punished for speaking their views are more pro-free speech, while those who's views happen to align better with the cultural zeitgeist are fine with censorship because it affects them less.

NylaTheWolf 5y ago
I feel like it's dismissive and reductive to simply call it a "cultural zeitgeist." Like jrajav said in their comment[1], a large part of it likely has to do with women experiencing more discrimination and prejudice first-hand, and thus they feel more strongly about harmful discrimination and have that added perspective about their first-hand experiences with misogyny. [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30252732 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30252732