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Hello, I am Origo. I am a 3D printer for ten year olds.

65 points by jamesbritt 15y ago

dirkdeman 15y ago
Forget ten year olds, I'm 32 and I want one! When I looked at the first page, I thought "nice idea, but ideas are worthless". Then I looked at the second page, and you guys have put a lot of research in it, it's really thought out well. If the price is right, let's say < 200 USD, I'm in the market. For my kid, of course.
- nekgrim 15y ago
  "I’ll be as big as three Xbox 360s and as expensive as three Xbox 360s." a little more than $200, i think
- bradleyland 15y ago
  One day you'll be able to buy one for <$200, but not this one. Just having one available at $600-$800 will be huge. Imagine if the rich kid in your neighborhood had one of these when you were growing up. I'm curious about operational costs though. Even if the initial investment is within reach of well-to-do middle-classers, dropping $60 every time little Jimmy wants to "print" his latest robot model could get old really, really quickly.
  - rflrob 15y ago
    I don't see on the "Making of Origo" page anything about what material they're using, but ABS plastic isn't that expensive, especially for small models. They also ask (but don't answer) "What if it could recycle its own material?", so little Jimmy will have to pick and choose which robot models to keep around, but could in principle make a new one without a huge investment in substrate.
    - PotatoEngineer 15y ago
      Well, ABS is kinda expensive if you're buying it in spools from Makerbot: about $45/kg. That's around $5 per toy, if they're smallish, or around the cost of a toy you'd buy. It's not saving you money, anyway.
      - bradleyland 15y ago
        That's pretty good info. I don't think $45/kg is to terribly bad. I think a lot of it will come down to who ends up funding/owning the devices and the supplies. If they go for the "razorblades" (or maybe more appropriately injket printer ink) profit model, things could go pretty poorly. Let's hope there are at least a few players that decide to keep things sane.
      - chernevik 15y ago
        Not unreasonable. But can "drafts" be printed from cheaper materials? 10 year olds often struggle with forethought and impulse control. They can be great visualizers, but details and abstractions are often challenges. So the ability to cheaply print a rough draft, from which they can see and fix flaws, would be nice.
  - felipemnoa 15y ago
    http://reprap.org/wiki/Main_Page http://reprap.org/wiki/Main_Page
jbermudes 15y ago
I see a lot of work done in making 3D printers accessible to the point of having one in every home, but I wonder if any home improvement stores have considered having them on-site and using it to gain foot-traffic to buy the additional parts needed to complete the object.
- clistctrl 15y ago
  That's... brilliant!
JoeAltmaier 15y ago
Cool product design; anything real behind it? Or just wishful thinking.
- olliesaunders 15y ago
  3D printers are already a reality. As is easy-to-use 3D modeling software: http://www.spore.com/ http://www.spore.com/ is a game where you did your own 3D modeling to create critters.
  - nrp 15y ago
    3D printers are a reality, but $600 3D printers that are low maintenance and come assembled and ready to go are certainly not. I don't see anything on the Origo site suggesting they've solved the problems that have kept the UP!, the assembled MakerBot Thing-O-Matic, and other assembled home 3D printers above $2000. I also don't see evidence that they've made any breakthroughs in reliability or ease of use, or really anything more than renders and prose.
0x12 15y ago
The copy on the page seems to be a bit ahead of itself, as long as you are in the vaporware stage I think it is premature to say that "none will be as easy to use as I will. None will be as reliable or work as hard for you". The video caption on vimeo says it is 'ready for immediate launch' but the origo home page says it is 'just an idea'. Making statements about the reliability of something that is still in the idea stage is premature. Though it is admirable that reliability is high on the list of priorities.
- olliesaunders 15y ago
  Those are just goals. There’s little wrong with aiming high.
  - jerf 15y ago
    This is rapidly becoming one of my personal catchphrases: "Goals aren't results." There is something wrong with talking about your goals as if they're a foregone conclusion.
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innes 15y ago
Origo can talk and write blog posts. Lose that functionality and the price should drop considerably.
glimcat 15y ago
Existing 3DPs tend to require significant maintenance by expert or semi-expert operators. I don't see anything here showing that you've solved that.
iamwil 15y ago
Where does the plastic go in?
donw 15y ago
It's not legal to print ten-year-olds in 2D, much less 3D. Joking aside, while a cool idea, I don't think it's really aimed at the right market. I wouldn't mind having a cheap 3D printer for quick prototyping, but for children, the physical experience of molding and shaping a new creation is an important part of their mental and physical development. At ten years old, kids' brains are still locking down key motor and spatial reasoning skills. This seems like a device more suitable for teenagers-and-up.
- jamesbritt 15y ago
  We need the inverse: place some real object in a box and get back 3D specs to reproduce. Then kids (that includes all of us, too) can make stuff in Play-doh then make more durable copies.
  - Jach 15y ago
    I'm pretty sure we've had 3D scanners since before 3D printers, but I don't recall off-hand how cheap they are. But great idea for a kids application with playdough.
    - koffiezet 15y ago
      You should be able to do this pretty cheaply with pattern-lights, a cheap webcam and some intelligent software?
      - Jach 15y ago
        Yeah, you're right. Look at what people can do with just two Kinects; all you really need is enough pictures of the object from different surrounding points to construct a 3D representation that looks alright.
        jamesbritt 15y ago
        Damn good point. Even one kinect and a rotating platform could work. It could plausibly be built for around $200.00. Makes me suspect someone has already hacked one into existence ...
lakeeffect 15y ago
I think makerbot industries has a better marketing angle, price just above a grand, aimed at tinkerers to create. Unless the goal of origo is to print in a re-printable material, their target market shouldn't be for a piece of the play-dough market comprised of elementary school kids. I can easily say i wouldnt buy either, i just dont have the need. If i was going to prototype something i would probably use shapeways.com or another 3d printing service. http://www.makerbot.com/ http://www.makerbot.com/ http://www.shapeways.com/ http://www.shapeways.com/
evan_ 15y ago
Reminds me of the Super Thingmaker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creepy_Crawlers#Varieties_of_Thingmaker_mold_sets http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creepy_Crawlers#Varieties_of_Th...

65 points by jamesbritt 15y ago

Forget ten year olds, I'm 32 and I want one! When I looked at the first page, I thought "nice idea, but ideas are worthless". Then I looked at the second page, and you guys have put a lot of research in it, it's really thought out well. If the price is right, let's say < 200 USD, I'm in the market. For my kid, of course.

nekgrim 15y ago
"I’ll be as big as three Xbox 360s and as expensive as three Xbox 360s." a little more than $200, i think
bradleyland 15y ago
One day you'll be able to buy one for <$200, but not this one. Just having one available at $600-$800 will be huge. Imagine if the rich kid in your neighborhood had one of these when you were growing up. I'm curious about operational costs though. Even if the initial investment is within reach of well-to-do middle-classers, dropping $60 every time little Jimmy wants to "print" his latest robot model could get old really, really quickly.
- rflrob 15y ago
  I don't see on the "Making of Origo" page anything about what material they're using, but ABS plastic isn't that expensive, especially for small models. They also ask (but don't answer) "What if it could recycle its own material?", so little Jimmy will have to pick and choose which robot models to keep around, but could in principle make a new one without a huge investment in substrate.
  - PotatoEngineer 15y ago
    Well, ABS is kinda expensive if you're buying it in spools from Makerbot: about $45/kg. That's around $5 per toy, if they're smallish, or around the cost of a toy you'd buy. It's not saving you money, anyway.
    - bradleyland 15y ago
      That's pretty good info. I don't think $45/kg is to terribly bad. I think a lot of it will come down to who ends up funding/owning the devices and the supplies. If they go for the "razorblades" (or maybe more appropriately injket printer ink) profit model, things could go pretty poorly. Let's hope there are at least a few players that decide to keep things sane.
    - chernevik 15y ago
      Not unreasonable. But can "drafts" be printed from cheaper materials? 10 year olds often struggle with forethought and impulse control. They can be great visualizers, but details and abstractions are often challenges. So the ability to cheaply print a rough draft, from which they can see and fix flaws, would be nice.
- felipemnoa 15y ago
  http://reprap.org/wiki/Main_Page http://reprap.org/wiki/Main_Page

jbermudes 15y ago

I see a lot of work done in making 3D printers accessible to the point of having one in every home, but I wonder if any home improvement stores have considered having them on-site and using it to gain foot-traffic to buy the additional parts needed to complete the object.

clistctrl 15y ago
That's... brilliant!

JoeAltmaier 15y ago

Cool product design; anything real behind it? Or just wishful thinking.

olliesaunders 15y ago
3D printers are already a reality. As is easy-to-use 3D modeling software: http://www.spore.com/ http://www.spore.com/ is a game where you did your own 3D modeling to create critters.
- nrp 15y ago
  3D printers are a reality, but $600 3D printers that are low maintenance and come assembled and ready to go are certainly not. I don't see anything on the Origo site suggesting they've solved the problems that have kept the UP!, the assembled MakerBot Thing-O-Matic, and other assembled home 3D printers above $2000. I also don't see evidence that they've made any breakthroughs in reliability or ease of use, or really anything more than renders and prose.

0x12 15y ago

The copy on the page seems to be a bit ahead of itself, as long as you are in the vaporware stage I think it is premature to say that "none will be as easy to use as I will. None will be as reliable or work as hard for you". The video caption on vimeo says it is 'ready for immediate launch' but the origo home page says it is 'just an idea'. Making statements about the reliability of something that is still in the idea stage is premature. Though it is admirable that reliability is high on the list of priorities.

olliesaunders 15y ago
Those are just goals. There’s little wrong with aiming high.
- jerf 15y ago
  This is rapidly becoming one of my personal catchphrases: "Goals aren't results." There is something wrong with talking about your goals as if they're a foregone conclusion.
deleted 15y ago
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innes 15y ago

Origo can talk and write blog posts. Lose that functionality and the price should drop considerably.

glimcat 15y ago

Existing 3DPs tend to require significant maintenance by expert or semi-expert operators. I don't see anything here showing that you've solved that.

iamwil 15y ago

Where does the plastic go in?

donw 15y ago

It's not legal to print ten-year-olds in 2D, much less 3D. Joking aside, while a cool idea, I don't think it's really aimed at the right market. I wouldn't mind having a cheap 3D printer for quick prototyping, but for children, the physical experience of molding and shaping a new creation is an important part of their mental and physical development. At ten years old, kids' brains are still locking down key motor and spatial reasoning skills. This seems like a device more suitable for teenagers-and-up.

jamesbritt 15y ago
We need the inverse: place some real object in a box and get back 3D specs to reproduce. Then kids (that includes all of us, too) can make stuff in Play-doh then make more durable copies.
- Jach 15y ago
  I'm pretty sure we've had 3D scanners since before 3D printers, but I don't recall off-hand how cheap they are. But great idea for a kids application with playdough.
  - koffiezet 15y ago
    You should be able to do this pretty cheaply with pattern-lights, a cheap webcam and some intelligent software?
    - Jach 15y ago
      Yeah, you're right. Look at what people can do with just two Kinects; all you really need is enough pictures of the object from different surrounding points to construct a 3D representation that looks alright.
      - jamesbritt 15y ago
        Damn good point. Even one kinect and a rotating platform could work. It could plausibly be built for around $200.00. Makes me suspect someone has already hacked one into existence ...

lakeeffect 15y ago

I think makerbot industries has a better marketing angle, price just above a grand, aimed at tinkerers to create. Unless the goal of origo is to print in a re-printable material, their target market shouldn't be for a piece of the play-dough market comprised of elementary school kids. I can easily say i wouldnt buy either, i just dont have the need. If i was going to prototype something i would probably use shapeways.com or another 3d printing service. http://www.makerbot.com/ http://www.makerbot.com/ http://www.shapeways.com/ http://www.shapeways.com/

evan_ 15y ago

Reminds me of the Super Thingmaker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creepy_Crawlers#Varieties_of_Thingmaker_mold_sets http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creepy_Crawlers#Varieties_of_Th...