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Send your email right to the other person's spam
- r1ch 5y agoI received a data breach notice from a local business as required under GDPR and it had failing SPF and DKIM as if it was intended to go straight to spam. Hard to say if it was intentional or incompetence, but it seemed like a good way to fulfill the requirements of the law without the reputation hit!
- abhaynayar 5y agoI pasted this in my Gmail compose message box without entering the Subject. And then when I clicked on the Subject box, it gave me suggestions such as "Credit alert!", "Last chance!" etc.
- kurthr 5y agoWouldn't having a list of un-whitelisted smtp servers also help... or is the concern that the email would be blackholed and simply never be delivered, exposing your scam? Don't you also want a fake UTF16 version of their email address that bounces... so that everybody else who looks thinks they were in the CC list?
- makeitdouble 5y agoCorrupted email in the CC list could be the best strategy. Other people can vouch that everyone was invited, and there is no weird spam text mail left that could get displayed in unexpected ways (if they try to forward it to some other mail for instance)
- derekzhouzhen 5y agoAll I see is: #1 $$$ 100% Act now Action Additional income Affordable All natural/new Amazed Apply now Avoid Be amazed/your own boss Beneficiary Billing Billion Bonus Boss Buy Call!!!!!! free/now Cancel Cash Casino Certified Cheap Click here Clearance Collect Compare rates Congratulations Credit card/check/offers Cures Deal Dear friend/somebody Debt Discount!!!!!! Direct email Don't delete/hesitate Double your income/cash Earn Extra Expire Fantastic Free!!!!! access/money/gift Freedom Friend Get it now/started/paid Great Guarantee Hello Income Increase sales/traffic Instant Investment Junk Limited Lose Lowest price Luxury Make $/money???? Medicine Money Name!!!!!!! No credit check/experience Now Obligation Offer Only Open Order now Please Presently Problem Promise Purchase Quote Rates Refinance Refund Remove Request Risk-free Sales Satisfaction!!!!!! Save Score Serious Spam Success Supplies Take action Terms Traffic Trial Unlimited Urgent!!!!! Weight While supplies last Win Winner XJSC4JDBQADN1.NSBN32IDNENGTUBE-STANDARD-ANTI-UBE-TEST-EMAILC.34X How is that invisible?
- trutannus 5y agoIt's invisible on Gmail at least. When you paste it to non-email situations it's not got the same formatting I assume.
- josephcsible 5y agoYou probably pasted it as plain text, which indeed breaks it. If you paste it as rich text or HTML it will be invisible.
- derekzhouzhen 5y agoI see, it is rich text content with a tiny font and white color. Neat.
- bzbarsky 5y agoUnless the recipient's mail reader doesn't do HTML.
- jacobrussell 5y agoI think by "invisible message" they mean it's invisible to the receiver because it's in their spam folder. I also thought this was a way to send a normal email to the spam folder, but looks like it is assuming the spam filter removes the email based on content. I wonder if there is a way to use this method with a tracker pixel, so that it gets filtered out because of the content, but the reader can't see it. edit: I tried it in gmail and it was invisible.
- ______-_-______ 5y agoHere's an idea: Send a multipart email. Include the spam keywords in the text/plain part, and your ordinary message in the text/html part. Almost all email clients these days will ignore the text/plain part, so they'll only see the text/html and there won't be any suspicious 1pt white text. As long as they don't view the raw message, you should be in the clear. Or even better, use base64 transfer encoding for the spam keywords. Spam filters HATE base64.
- sschueller 5y agoThere is an alternative way. Just setup a mail server on a VPS and send a clean normal email /s
- pkulak 5y agoThen it will be bounced without even going to spam!
- alfiedotwtf 5y agoNo need to /s because this is exactly what happens. Doubly so if the recipient is using Gmail.
- mdasen 5y agoI know that you're making a joke about rejecting legitimate email from small senders, but if you wanted something to hit spam, sending from a VPS where the SPF wouldn't pass would be a decent way (though it might just get rejected entirely). For those who don't know, SPF allows one to specify which IP addresses can send mail for a domain. Your VPS likely wouldn't match the range for whatever domain you're trying to send from.
- beckler 5y agoInteresting. I’m used to just putting MX domains in those records. I didn’t realize you can specify specific IP addresses.
- cube00 5y agoCareful with this, multiple failed SPFs might lead to an abuse report. As others have said I've found even with SPF/DMARC and everything set up correctly it still goes into spam so you don't even do need anything special!
- atum47 5y agoThis is both evil and awesome!!!
- golem14 5y agoup to the point where you mail provider thinks you are a spammer and put ALL your mail in spam folders ;)
- jupp0r 5y agoJust start your message with Dear friend, … They will stop reading and delete it on the spot right there.
- BLKNSLVR 5y agoDear <last name> is a classic.
- eyelidlessness 5y agoI just don’t reply to emails unless I absolutely have no other option. Works the same way, my whole inbox is a spam filter. I very seldom receive email that warrants response anyway.
- ARandomerDude 5y agoI have a similar approach. If someone asks me for something twice, I know they meant it. If they ask once, it wasn't that important or they were just being lazy.
- andai 5y agoFun fact, by default iOS Do Not Disturb mode will make the phone ring if they call a second time in a row.
- eyelidlessness 5y agoI’m going to charitably assume the downvoters sent me an email and I neglected to respond. Cheers, You’re not that important
- TruffleLabs 5y agoGmail to FastMail FastMail to Gmail Both sends ended in the normal email (not spam) folder. Probably not 100% identified as spam. Also, the paste of tiny font only works if the email rich text is on.
- twalichiewicz 5y agoReminds me of that Nathan For You episode where he created a way for party planners to “accidentally” get invitations lost in spam: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p9KeopXHcf8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p9KeopXHcf8 EDIT: As elektor pointed out, this was already mentioned in the footnote on the site. :-)
- elektor 5y agoIf you look down at the footnotes of the OP submission, that’s exactly the episode that inspired this idea.
- NotPractical 5y agoNathan for You is a great show. Thought of this episode as soon as I read the title.
- parhamn 5y agoConfession. This vaguely reminded me of something (now admittedly, terrible) I did way back in highschool to give myself a bit more time on an assignment: submit a corrupted docx by putting in some random bytes in the file. This would give you time until the teacher would get to grading (and opening) the file at which point you’d hopefully have finished. Learning not to procrastinate as much turned out to be the better life skill.
- thelittleone 5y agoGlad to learn I wasn't the only one. When it comes to solving issues resulting from my procrastination, my ingenuity knows no bounds.
- cbsks 5y agoYou weren’t the only one! My email client in high school also had a terrible tendency to “corrupt” words docs. It was a good way to buy a few days extension.
- fotta 5y agoIn college most profs were aware of this and explicitly stated that malformed files would be graded either as a 0 or under whatever late policy they had.
- parhamn 5y agoObviously at this point you’d explain quantum bit flips and point out how absurd their policy is. :)
- spicybright 5y agoMy solar flare ate my homework.
- rubidium 5y ago“Obviously the universe doesn’t want you to pass my class” - professor
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- heartbeats 5y agoThe easy way to do this is to just connect with netcat and send it from your home IP. If it violates SPF, it is all but certain to go into spam.
- premrajnarkhede 5y agowhat if this gets my email shadow banned on gmail networks? very risky
- jondwillis 5y agoThis was a bit in an episode of Nathan For You.
- teddyh 5y agoCouldn’t you just pre-add an “X-Spam: yes” header?
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y agoNow you're got me wondering if one can stick on a "X-Spam: no” header. Like... Surely not, but...
- ngomez 5y agoI think the IPv4 "evil" bit [0] already does this :) [0] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3514 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3514
- xiphias2 5y agoJust write that she won the lottery. It worked for the Michigan lottery even without wanting to do it: https://www.npr.org/2022/01/24/1075403459/michigan-woman-mega-millions-lottery-prize-spam-folder https://www.npr.org/2022/01/24/1075403459/michigan-woman-meg...
- garbagecoder 5y agoReminds me of SLY-DIAL, when you NEED it to go straight to voicemail.
- paulpauper 5y agoa16z has just announced a series A round for this website, valuating it at $1 billion. well done.
- Orangeair 5y agoI wonder if just "X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*" would be enough to do it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EICAR_test_file https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EICAR_test_file
- dewlinedew2 5y agoNo you must write about Viagra and the related conditions
- kingcharles 5y agoI sent out invites for everyone to my Viagra party and no-one turned up. I guess the invites all went in the spam.
- m-s 5y agoThe pasted text already includes the GTUBE string [1], which is used to test some spam filters. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTUBE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTUBE
- 88913527 5y agoI wonder if this random string of words (now present on sites with higher reputation, like HN) will feed into spam training systems, and now it won't be spam.
- shaky-carrousel 5y agoNo, the gtube string (GTUBE-STANDARD-ANTI-UBE-TEST-EMAIL) is a special string made for testing anti spam systems (there is another for antivirus systems). That's the only part of the block of text that is going to work 100%. The rest looks like filler. Anyway, you cannot (shouldn't) train a system to accept the gtube string).
- hammyhavoc 5y agoIs this not going to hurt your sending reputation for everybody going forward?
- dewlinedew2 5y agoI guess not since you're only sending one or a few, it's below the radar
- hammyhavoc 5y agoI can see people sending a lot of these. LOL
- strijelac 5y agoPerfect. Just what I need to send important emails to my boss.
- Simon_O_Rourke 5y agoI irregularly clean out my spam folder, and it's rare, but I do catch the odd legitimate email in there. But last month I was nearly caught out by a dumb phishing attempt. There was an ex of mine who would quite regularly send nonsense cutesy videos to a bcc list including my own email. However, one email I spotted in spam had a personal message and a bitly shortcode. I forgot to check the sender domain, it was something like my-ex@i-phone-asia.pk... I was very very nearly about to click on that link, doubting the spam filter could effectively tell a phishing attempt from a tidal wave of internet forwarded garbage.
- openplatypus 5y agoThis is a gold mine. Their other project is: http://www.chadfreezone.com/ http://www.chadfreezone.com/ > The Chad Free Zone Chrome Extension let's you auto swipe left on anyone with a forbidden name on Tinder. This made me chuckle so hard.
- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 5y agolol where is MANHOOD?
- 6510 5y agoI hate how there is only 1 type of message. I often want to send something that isn't urgent enough to make their device bleep. Sending to spam could also be a useful marketing tool. The email filtering topic had me think it would be useful to offer some options if you received mail from multiple potentially bad actors since the last time you logged in. Beyond 4-8 I wouldn't want it in my inbox. Perhaps some cryptographic contact of contact is also possible.
- Aachen 5y agoIf something is urgent they should call me. Messages depend on the person. But emails are well within the category of reading whenever I have time, every other day or so. If people's devices beep every time anyone sends them an email, that's their choice. Which is not to say that a priority indication can't be helpful. Telegram has "send without sound" as an option if you long press the message button, which I use at night with my mom because I know she usually leaves sound on 24/7 (apparently other, "normal" people don't message after midnight!). Email has this system too but the other way around (priority flag) and I've received about a dozen high-priority emails, mostly while interning at a bigcorp. They could literally all have been deleted unseen. People set the flag when they think you'll otherwise not read it, it's that level of useless. There's also a low-priority flag that I've seen used maybe once ever. You could start using that if you're worried someone has standard emails set to audio notifications.
- jorisboris 5y agoI wish I came up with this idea :)
- tomcooks 5y agoemojis mid text, emojis mid text, emojis mid text. pictograms, pictograms, pictograms, gu gu ga ga. also, this is going to make your address reputation plummet, if you enjoy convincing (often in exchange for a 30$+ commission) 100+ different blacklist operators that you're not a spammer please use this tool t. grumpy, no-fun, old fart
- faeyanpiraat 5y agoYour karma soon goes to the future
- j3th9n 5y agoDoesn't work, instead of ending in the spam folder it is instantly dropped, by my own mailserver at least: The response from the remote server was: 550 High scoring spam message has been dropped
- Aachen 5y agoYeah, these are the worst. I couldn't email some company because they contracted google, set the filters to max, and it would filter on SMTP level. There was no way to reach them short of going out to a post office and buying stamps.
- dieg0 5y agoThis is silly, probably won't work in all cases, but I love it as an anti pattern
- mito88 5y agosent an email to my outlook email and the spam segment wassn't detected.