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GoFundMe should be political neutral, but it openly turns left. I recommend a long post explaining this phenomenon: https://richardhanania.substack.com/p/why-is
by temp8964 5y ago
GoFundMe should be political neutral, but it openly turns left. I recommend a long post explaining this phenomenon: https://richardhanania.substack.com/p/why-is-everything-liberal https://richardhanania.substack.com/p/why-is-everything-libe...
- belltaco 5y agoSo many words and nothing about the urban-rural and the religious divide which explain many things. I should have stuck to my rule about stopping reading at 'woke' but I wanted to give it a chance.
- temp8964 5y agoI have no idea why the urban-rural and the religious divide is relevant to the specific topic.
- pstuart 5y agoVaccines didn't used to be political.
- peteradio 5y agoMandates will always be political.
- brokensegue 5y agoAt least in the US lots of vaccines are mandated (of children) and it's not political.
- tomp 5y agoFor diseases that actually hurt children. See this article by Dr Peter Attia (and embedded graph under heading "OBSERVATION 4") about how dangerous COVID is for children (and adults < 35). https://peterattiamd.com/a-follow-up-to-my-article-on-vaccine-mandates/ https://peterattiamd.com/a-follow-up-to-my-article-on-vaccin...
- brokensegue 5y agoI'm replying to someone who claimed mandates will always be political by pointing out a counter example. The covid mandate in the US at least was of adults. All of whom are at some risk (especially if you include long covid).
- peteradio 5y agoMy point is this: If you have a vaccine its inherently non-political, its just a medical intervention. But when it becomes mandated now you introduce a process by which some people can decide for some other people what must be done. That is politics.
- brokensegue 5y agoThat is not what people generally mean by "political".
- HPsquared 5y agoIt is a little bit political, usually doesn't reach the national level though.
- klyrs 5y agoI don't know what decade you were born in, but I have cousins aged 18 and 20 that have never been vaccinated because of their mom's political beliefs.
- brokensegue 5y agojust because some people disagree with a policy does make it "political". I know someone that opposes seatbelt laws but that doesn't make them "political". That said I don't think it's productive to debate what "political" means.
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- User23 5y agoAll policy is political by definition. Also the shared etymology is a bit of a hint too. Observe thar policy-makers is used as a synonym for politicians.
- brokensegue 5y agoI don't think that's what people mean when they say an issue is political. They generally mean it's contentious or split partisanly. Your definition would suggest public water utilities are "political" which sounds silly to me. Google offers the definition >relating to the ideas or strategies of a particular party or group in politics.
- User23 5y ago> Your definition would suggest public water utilities are "political" which sounds silly to me. Tell that to the people of Flint, Michigan.
- landemva 5y agoFor their health when older, I hope they look into getting exposed to chicken pox ASAP.
- 8note 5y agoPeople didn't used to disagree with the politics.
- pstuart 5y agoPeople have always disagreed over politics, it's just that more things have been politicized.
- _-david-_ 5y agoThis isn't a protest over vaccines though.
- pstuart 5y agoIt was protesting vaccine requirements and has morphed into more because everybody loves a circus.
- 16012022 5y agoIt’s a private company, it absolutely does not need to be neutral. They can choose any side they want. If you don’t like it, don’t use their platform. Gosh, when did the notion of private firms got so mixed up with so-called political neutrality? Are people this naïve?
- gruez 5y ago>It’s a private company, it absolutely does not need to be neutral You're talking past each other. OP said should, you're talking about "needs".
- 16012022 5y agoThe point stands. No private company should be neutral.
- krapp 5y agoThe point doesn't stand for much, it's just your personal opinion.
- 16012022 5y agoWell, I commented it. Ofc it is my opinion, who else would it be? It also happens to be how reality works. Private organizations have literally always chosen sides. It’s how the world works, and I’m sorry it doesn’t fit your likes. Nothing you can do about it mate.
- gruez 5y ago>Well, I commented it. Ofc it is my opinion, who else would it be? Your "point" doesn't stand for much if it's just your opinion and you refuse to justify the reason for it. >It also happens to be how reality works. Private organizations have literally always chosen sides. It’s how the world works, and I’m sorry it doesn’t fit your likes. Nothing you can do about it mate. The state can always send Men With Guns to quell dissenting speech. Should we also proclaim that the government "absolutely does not need" to guarantee freedom of speech? Corporations can ultimately coerce you into accepting terms that overwhelmingly favor them, by offering services under "take it or leave it" terms. Should we say that consumers "absolutely does not need" to be afforded consumer protection rights?
- malermeister 5y agoThis article does not support your claim. It talks about things being liberal, which is a right-wing, pro-market ideology and fundamentally incompatible with leftism.
- gruez 5y agoThat might be true if you're in a political science course or something, but in the US "liberal", "leftism", "left-wing" is usually synonymous with each other. Some of the "liberal causes" that the article talks about include "women’s march, BLM, and Occupy Wall Street ".
- krapp 5y ago
- malermeister 5y agoSounds like American political parlance needs to be elevated by people learning the distinction between all of those terms. Which is exactly the point of the comment. Just because a lot of people misuse terms and conflate unrelated concepts, doesn't mean they're right.
- vorpalhex 5y agoDo you have some kind of source that gave you this misinformed idea you keep repeating? Neither Britannica, Wikipedia, Dictionary.com or any other obvious source remotely supports what you are claiming. Are you confusing Libertarians with Liberalism?
- temp8964 5y agoIt’s just a far-left claiming everyone else is right-wing. It’s a common thing in their group.
- jakelazaroff 5y ago
- alea_iacta_est 5y agoVery interesting explanation, thanks.
- filed 5y ago
- mindslight 5y agoAnyone complaining about some big "left" collusion is essentially bashing a straw man. The actual truth is that there are more than two groups of political interests. Corporate interests are biased towards corporate interests, period. They're basically indifferent on social issues, and so from the right they appear "left" because they echo the broadest appeal as a marketing technique. Shoehorning everything that you disagree with into a single category and then thinking the whole world is ganging up on you is a completely broken model, but it is unfortunately lucrative.
- rayiner 5y agoThe article is, in fact, doing the opposite of "complaining about some big 'left' collusion." It's an explanation of how a vocal minority can produce similar results without any sort of conspiracy. > They're basically indifferent on social issues, and so from the right they appear "left" because they echo the broadest appeal as a marketing technique. The notion that this stuff has the "broadest appeal as a marketing technique" doesn't hold water. Why are Hispanics suddenly "Latinx" now, when virtually no Hispanics identify with that term? https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2020/08/11/about-one-in-four-u-s-hispanics-have-heard-of-latinx-but-just-3-use-it/ https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2020/08/11/about-one-in... Last year, they had "Black Trans" posters at our local mall. My county is half Republicans, and a lot of the Democrats are middle class Black people who definitely do not have socially progressive views on gender identity.
- rayiner 5y agoThe article is, in fact, doing the opposite of "complaining about some big 'left' collusion." It's an explanation of how a vocal minority can produce similar results without any sort of conspiracy. > They're basically indifferent on social issues, and so from the right they appear "left" because they echo the broadest appeal as a marketing technique. The notion that this stuff has the "broadest appeal as a marketing technique" doesn't hold water. Why are Hispanics suddenly "Latinx" now, when virtually no Hispanics identify with that term? https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2020/08/11/about-one-in-four-u-s-hispanics-have-heard-of-latinx-but-just-3-use-it https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2020/08/11/about-one-in.... Last year, they had "Black Trans" posters at our local mall. My county is half Republicans, and a lot of the Democrats are middle class Black people who definitely do not have socially progressive views on gender identity.
- pessimizer 5y ago> GoFundMe should be political neutral Why? Are you advocating for ISIS to be able to do a gofundme?
- chii 5y ago> advocating for ISIS to be able to do a gofundme if ISIS isn't under US financial sanctions, then yes. GFM is not, and should not, be in the business of gatekeeping people's desire to fund causes they believe in, as long as those causes are legal.
- axiosgunnar 5y agoThere is a whole world of opinions besides leftism and islamic extremism.
- jstanley 5y agoWhy shouldn't they be able to? Gofundme shouldn't be in the business of picking winners and losers. If someone wants to collect money for a cause, then Gofundme should be a neutral platform for that. It's up to individuals whether they want to donate to any particular cause.
- aksss 5y agoWay to strawman!!
- temp8964 5y agoIf ISIS is just a political ideology then you have a point. But it's a terrorist organization. I am not sure what's going on in your head. Are you going to argue about terrorism is just a subjective label?